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    Nu mai intra in nici o viteza cu motorul pornit. Din cate stiu eu este din cauza placii de presiune deci trebuie sa dau cutia de viteze jos si sa il schimb. Am gasit un kit ambreiaj Stage 1 XTD pe care vreau sa-l comand si sa-l montez. M-ar intereas cum desfac planetarele de pe cutie? A mai schimbat cineva ambreiajul? Poate sa ma indrume careva?
    Laux_LauX_LauX
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    Last edited by Laux_LauX_LauX; 13-10-09, 22:36.
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  • #2
    ca sa te chinui mai mult decat au facut-o alti colegi de forum, trebuia sa folosesti 'nicio viteza'

    ca sa nu fie degeaba si tendentios postul, incearca sa vezi manualele de la postul urmator, banui ca pe-acolo se ascunde si cel de service: http://www.hondafan.ro/forum/showthread.php?t=4634

    daca nu e, cer scuze, revino cu post si te ajutam in continuare, pe cat putem

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    • #3
      Originally posted by primus View Post
      ca sa te chinui mai mult decat au facut-o alti colegi de forum, trebuia sa folosesti 'nicio viteza'

      ca sa nu fie degeaba si tendentios postul, incearca sa vezi manualele de la postul urmator, banui ca pe-acolo se ascunde si cel de service: http://www.hondafan.ro/forum/showthread.php?t=4634

      daca nu e, cer scuze, revino cu post si te ajutam in continuare, pe cat putem


      Laux. vrei sa-ti faci singur toata operatia? Vorbeste mai bine cu un mecanic auto (asta daca nu cumva esti priceput si nu stiu eu). Oricum e greu de descris in text cum si ce sa faci, ai nevoie si de vedere.
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      • #4
        Ai manualul aici http://www.fbx.ro/4jwpe5x1m6b14s4j

        Spor la treaba!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by primus View Post
          ca sa te chinui mai mult decat au facut-o alti colegi de forum, trebuia sa folosesti 'nicio viteza'
          Exagerezi acum. Eu cred ca "nici o viteza" este la fel de corect.
          "Things are not what they appear to be: nor are they otherwise."
          "The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." - Sir Terry Pratchett

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cata_mahu View Post


            Laux. vrei sa-ti faci singur toata operatia? Vorbeste mai bine cu un mecanic auto (asta daca nu cumva esti priceput si nu stiu eu). Oricum e greu de descris in text cum si ce sa faci, ai nevoie si de vedere.
            Mecanici auto specializati in Honda nu prea gasesc prin apropiere iar sa merg intr-o singura viteza 150km pana in Timisoara nu prea imi arde de o astfel de experienta si nici nu am 15-16 milioane pentru aceasta operatie (12 milioane kitu + manopera). Asa ca imi iau un kit cu 3-4 milioane de pe eBay si mi-l montez singur cum mi-am montat si pana acum restul componentelor de pe masina. M-am uitat pe fuga peste manual si tot nu imi este clar cum dau jos planetarele. In poze(schite) vad un inel dar tot nu-mi dau seama cum ajung la el, planetara pe interior nu se tine in nici un surub? sau se tine doar in acel inel?. O sa listez cartea si o voi studiea mai detaliat probabil direct din canal de sub masina Piesa pe care o comand chear acum imi vine maxim in 2 saptamani deci am destul timp la dispozitie sa dau cutia jos.
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            • #7
              Acum la intalnire s-a dus ambreiajul? Oricum spor la treaba si am sa intreb si eu pe cineva priceput sa vad daca stie sa imi zica cum se dau jos.
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              • #8
                Ieri dimineata (pe 13 bineinteles) am uracat o panta, am fortat umpic si s-a dus dintrodata, nu mai intra in nici o viteza cu motorul pornit. La intalnire a fost totul OK nu vroia sa se faca de rusine fix acolo printre atatea masini chear daca nu am spalat-o. O rezolv eu si pe asta, nu e cine stie ce mare scofala. Deja am si comandat piesele:
                http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=350262372698
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                • #9
                  planetara pe interioru cui ???vezi ca nu-i cine stie ce sa o dai jos , ai grija cand o scoti din cutie ca o sa-ti curga ulei .

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Toyboy View Post
                    planetara pe interioru cui ???vezi ca nu-i cine stie ce sa o dai jos , ai grija cand o scoti din cutie ca o sa-ti curga ulei .
                    Pai planetara are 2 capeti nu!? interior catre cutie (cu inel) si exterior catre roata (cu filet). Sigur o sa curga ulei pe acolo? Ufff... saptamana trecuta l-am schimbat. Numai eu stiu cat m-am chinuit sa-i dau ulei (sange) printr-un furtunash de perfuzie . Deci inainte sa dau jos planetarele mai bine dau drumu la ulei si il pun inapoi dupa ce termin cu ambreiaju. Daca era ceva mai cald afara acum eram cu cheile sub masina nu cu tastatura in brate.
                    Multumesc mult pt atentionarea asta, cred ca inebuneam observand cum MTF 3-u se scurge pe jos si nu am nici un gram de rezerva.
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                    • #11
                      nu o sa curga foarte mult dar sa fii pregatit cu ceva sa nu-l pierzi , ... pai infara de piulita si inelul de siguranta nu mai are nimic .

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                      • #12
                        Ok, am in inteles tot ce nu mi-a fost clar. Abea astept sa-mi vina kitu si sa ma pun pe treaba. Ce parere aveti de Ambreiajul pe care l-am comandat XTD Stage 1 !? Ma gandeam la un Stage 2 sau 3 dar am inteles ca sunt prea dure pt mine:

                        http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XTD-S...item5883ae6cf6

                        This XTD Stage 1 Clutch Kit Includes High Clamp Long Life Pressure plate,XTD Organic Street Disc,Nacci Throw out Bearing,Pilot Bearing, Alignment Tool,XTD Clutch Installation Guide and XTD Logo Window Decal.This XTD Pressure plate Holds 30% more HP and Torque Than Stock Pressure Plate and This Pressure plate is made from ductile iron and heat Treated Which is about 30 to 40% Stronger Than Just Stock Cast Iron Pressure plate. XTD Street Disc is Designed for Smooth Engagement,quiet operation and improved durability using only the best organic, spring center designs.This XTD Stage 1 clutch kit is Great for Just Stock Honda Civic/Del Sol and Mildly Modified Civic/Del Sol.All XTD Racing Clutch kit Requied 500Miles Break-in Period.
                        Pressure Increase 30%/Torque Capacity 248ft/lbs/Hold 250HP.

                        http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XTD-S...item5883ae8bd5

                        This XTD Pressure plate Holds 25% more HP and Torque Than Stock Pressure Plate and This Pressure plate is made from ductile iron and heat Treated Which is about 30 to 40% Stronger Than Just Stock Cast Iron Pressure plate. XTD Stage 2 clutch is Designed for Smooth Engagement,quiet operation and improved durability using only the best Kevlar, spring center designs.This XTD Stage 2 clutch kit is Works Great for Just Stock and Mildly Modified Integra.Every XTD Sports clutch kit Designed for Street (Daily driving) so It won't make you difficulty on Everyday Normal driving.All XTD Racing Clutch Kit Required 500Miles Break-in Period.
                        Pressure Increase 19%/Torque Capacity 230 ft/lbs/Hold up to 249HP.

                        http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XTD-S...item5883adbefd

                        This XTD Stage 3 Clutch Kit Includes XTD High Clamp Long Life Pressure plate,XTD "MIBA" 6 Puck Copper Ceramic Disc,Nacci Throw out Bearing,Pilot Bearing,Alignment Tool,XTD Clutch Installation Guide and XTD Logo Window decal.This XTD Pressure plate Holds 30% more HP and Torque Than Stock Pressure Plate and This Pressure plate is made from ductile iron and heat Treated Which is about 30 to 40% Stronger Than Just Stock Cast Iron Pressure plate. XTD "MIBA" Stage 3 Copper Ceramic Disc is designed for Ultra Racing Purpose and it Graps Much Harder Than Carbontic or Kevlar Disc also It will Increased Acceleration.However,It designed also Smooth Engagement and improved durability for Street so It won't make you difficulty on Daily Driving.This XTD Stage 3 clutch kit is Great for Just Stock Honda Civic/Del Sol and Mildly Modified Civic/Del Sol.All XTD Racing Clutch kit Requies 500Miles Break-in Period.
                        Pressure Increase 30%/Torque Capacity 273ft/lbs/Hold 300HP.

                        http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XTD-S...item2ea844a707

                        XTD Stage 4 6 puck Ceramic rigid cluitch is designed for the serious enthusiast with considerable modifications. This disc features 12 high-coefficient ceramic pads for quick engagement and the extreme duty friction needed. Our specifically designed high torque disc delivers maximum holding capacity without compromise.XTD Stage 4 clutch system Specially Designed for Turbo,Supercharged and Nitros or heavy out-put application.Using a Ceramic/Sintered Iron friction material,the XTD Stage 4 holds all the power and rapidly dissipates unwanted heat.We using this clutch system for most Racing,Track and Drag and 200-400% over stock holding capacity. This XTD Stage 4 Clutch Kit comes with XTD Extreme Heavy-duty Pressure plate *1950 lbs*,XTD 6 Puck Rigid Copper Ceramic Disc,Nacci Throw out Bearing, Pilot Beaing,Alignment Tool,XTD Clutch Installation Guide & XTD Logo Window Decal.XTD Extreme Heavy-duty Pressure plate is made from ductile iron and heat Treated Which is about 45% Stronger Than Just Stock Cast Iron Pressure plate.
                        Pressure Increase 25%/Torque Capacity 325ft/lbs/Hold 390HP.
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                        • #13
                          Laux, cati kilometri ai cu masina? Sunt curios dupa cati km a cedat, si cam ce stil de mers ai avut pana acum, sa stiu si eu in mare la ce sa ma astept...

                          Bafta si spor la montat/demontat !
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                          • #14
                            Ce treaba are masina lui cu masina ta??? Vad ca ai Accord, sau mai ai si un Civic? Plus ca el nu a avut-o de noua, nu stie daca a mai fost schimbat, cum a mers vechiul proprietar etc. La ambreiaj iti zic eu ca pot fi diferente mici in stilul de condus care sa insemne 30.000 km uzura prematura a ambreiajului...
                            '02 Accord Type-R CH1 / '07 Accord CL7 Elegance / ex '10 Civic Type-R FN2 LSD / ex '14 C Coupe AMG

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                            • #15
                              De acord cu tine, vroiam doar sa-mi fac o idee generala; ca sa fie mai apropiata de realitate, poate ne raspunde cineva cu un accord...
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