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    Aceleasi dimensiuni sau dimensiuni diferite ?
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    205 55 16 toate, nu ne batem joc

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    Dupa vizita la garajul local, am masurat discurile si am primit confirmarea ca incap jante pe 17... asa ca am bagat rapid comanda -> Dunlop SP Winter Sport 4D RSC... si asa am terminat si "febra" cautarii anvelopelor de iarna.
    Asta este prima iarna cu Dunlop. Sincer le-am ales doar pentru ca am primit o oferta foarte buna la ele (ce includeau si un set jante OEM).

    De ieri seara cand le-am montat, pana astazi am facut deja undeva la vreo 200km cu ele... si pana in prezent imi plac.
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    Michelin boss: Most drivers don’t need winter tyres
    Tuesday 21st November 2017 (Tyrepress)
    " In an interview published in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung on 19 November, Jean-Dominique Senard recommended all-season tyres as the first choice for German motorists (specifically, the Michelin CrossClimate+). While the Michelin Group chief executive office conceded that winter tyres may be appropriate for those living in mountainous regions, he opined that “most drivers in Germany don’t need them.” Citing the example of his own company’s all-season product – other brands are available – Senard claimed that “with these you really can go anywhere, and save a lot of time and money as there’s no need to change tyres every half a year.” "

    With the introduction of the CrossClimate + earlier this year, Michelin made the claim that the snow traction its tyre delivered with a tread depth of only 1.6mm was equivalent to that provided by competitor tyres with tread depths of 4mm. Furthermore, Michelin stressed that its tyres are made to be used down to the legal tread depth limit of 1.6mm. And why not? Changing earlier is simply throwing away good tread rubber.
    Michelin questions why a number of manufacturers, including the makers of some premium brands, recommend tyres used in winter be switched at 4mm. And it’s not alone in wondering this – when presenting its 2017 all-season tyre test, German car magazine Auto Bild asked if it was really necessary to swap a tyre when half its tread still remains.

    “If the tyre makers had their way, it’d be close of play at half time,” observed testers Dierk Möller and Henning Klipp in issue 47/2017 of Auto Bild. Quitting the pitch and going home after just three quarters of an hour is unimaginable, however the pair note that this is exactly what the “rubber princes” recommend when motorists buy new tyres. “What lies behind this seemingly outrageous recommendation from the tyre industry to use tyres only to a minimum tread depth of 4mm?” the testers ask.
    To find the answer to this question, Auto Bild didn’t just test new all-season tyres in this year’s test, it also tested the products when their tread depths had reached 4mm and 2mm.
    etc etc etc
    Only 2 tyres safe down to the limit....
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    http://www.tyrepress.com/2017/11/all...the-spotlight/

    Probabil ca e in editia de print a lui Auto Bild
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    Hello guys,
    Pareri pentru Nokian WR D3 205/55 R16 pentru iarna viitoare, probabil cumparate de pe eMag ?

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    Am luat eu acum 2 luni in urma, dar nu de la eMag, pentru ca preturile lor erau mult peste ce am gasit eu la momentul respectiv. Concret, 301 Lei cu TVA, pentru 205/55/R16. Sunt facute in Rusia, dar dupa ce le-am luat am aflat ca se aduc si facute in Finlanda, trebuie sa cauti insa bine de tot, sau sa ai ceva informatii.

    Eu abia le-am montat, le-am rulat doar 130 de km si sunt exact cum am citit pe net despre ele: nu foarte galagioase, destul de usurele, insa foarte confortabile, mai bune din acest pct de vedere decat cele de vara, care erau mult mai confortabile decat cele vechi de iarna (GoodYear Ultragrip 7+). Ramane de vazut in conditii autentice de iarna cum se vor comporta.

    Singurul aspect de remarcat ar fi zgomotul la rulare pe suprafete asfaltice foarte fine - transmit un suierat, ca de vant in plafon. Pe suprafete mai rugoase dispare acest zgomot. Similar si atunci cand calci marcajele dintre benzi. Nimic nou din ceea ce citisem despre ele. Ma astept si pe ploaie la aceleasi zgomote. Eu le-am luat strict pentru confortul lor, in ideea de a-mi proteja mai bine bucsele suspensiei cand apar craterele din Bucuresti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IB View Post
    Am luat eu acum 2 luni in urma, dar nu de la eMag, pentru ca preturile lor erau mult peste ce am gasit eu la momentul respectiv. Concret, 301 Lei cu TVA, pentru 205/55/R16. Sunt facute in Rusia, dar dupa ce le-am luat am aflat ca se aduc si facute in Finlanda, trebuie sa cauti insa bine de tot, sau sa ai ceva informatii.

    Eu abia le-am montat, le-am rulat doar 130 de km si sunt exact cum am citit pe net despre ele: nu foarte galagioase, destul de usurele, insa foarte confortabile, mai bune din acest pct de vedere decat cele de vara, care erau mult mai confortabile decat cele vechi de iarna (GoodYear Ultragrip 7+). Ramane de vazut in conditii autentice de iarna cum se vor comporta.

    Singurul aspect de remarcat ar fi zgomotul la rulare pe suprafete asfaltice foarte fine - transmit un suierat, ca de vant in plafon. Pe suprafete mai rugoase dispare acest zgomot. Similar si atunci cand calci marcajele dintre benzi. Nimic nou din ceea ce citisem despre ele. Ma astept si pe ploaie la aceleasi zgomote. Eu le-am luat strict pentru confortul lor, in ideea de a-mi proteja mai bine bucsele suspensiei cand apar craterele din Bucuresti.
    Ok, good to know Multumesc mult... poate vin oferte la diverse chestii pana in iarna viitoare.
    Eu am Michelin nu stiu ce model din 2007 si inca au 5 mm profil. Cei de la vulcanizare mi-au zis ca arata bine anvelopele, dar mi-au recomandat sa le schimb fiindca sunt vechi.

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    lol, 2007, dupa 4 ani, low budget si dupa 7 ani premium se cam schimba indiferent de "carne"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticker View Post
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    Macar omul de la Michelin e cinstit si spune lucrurilor pe nume. Pentru masini obisnuite, tot calvarul si umilinta de care are omu' parte cand vine iarna , nu isi gaseste justificare. De aia, pentru impresie artistica si pentru faptul ca sunt, CU ADEVARAT, cele mai bune din prima zi si pana la 1,6mm (adancimea minima legala) eu as lua Michelin. A, daca ai masina de Formula 1 sau ai de urcat pe niste pereti pentru ca locuiesti nu stiu unde, atunci , probabil, se justifica sa intri la PitStop si sa schimbi gumele. Dar, daca doar m-as crede un Schumacher, as intelege ca, in realitate nu sunt Schumacher iar strada nu e circuit si nici masina mea nu e vreo jmekerie daca are 1,5 cai putere in plus fata de a vecinului si as alege compromisul propus de presedintele companiei care domina tehnologic de zeci de ani lumea anvelopelor . Nu lucrez pt sau cu Michelin dar, declaratia acestui om, m-a facut sa-i respect cum, inainte, nu o faceam !

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    Mi se pare ca au uitat un lucru, sa "pilesti" un cauciuc nou pana la 2 mm si sa il testezi nu e acelasi lucru cu uzura/imbatranirea naturala a unei anvelope in decurs de cativa ani. Mi se pare irelevant un astfel de test.
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    E un test făcut de producătorii de anvelope, un marketing de 2 lei. Și mie mi se pare de neluat în seamă.
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    Adancimea minima legala la anvelopele de iarna nu e cumva 4 mm? E adevarat ca nu conteaza absolut de loc diferenta dintre anvelopele all season si cele de iarna. Ce conteaza cativa metri in plus la franare, cand poti evita toate umilintele?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delphi View Post
    Ce conteaza cativa metri in plus la franare, cand poti evita toate umilintele?
    Epic!
    Cred ca-s masochist, eu trec anual prin umilinte la ambele masini.
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