Opinions about hybrid performance engines

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  • Opinions about hybrid performance engines

    I realized that in Romania, there is a tendency to use new cars and new engines, but there is a way to gain power, in a comperatively cheaper way:

    There are Engine Families in Honda; B-series, K-series, F-series, D-series, H-series etc. Each Family of Engine has definite head-block connection that enables people to cross-breed the blocks and the heads.

    Some famous ones are; B20orB18 non-vtec block with B16a2 or B18vtec heads. K24 block with K20a2 head.

    The key word here is "THe bigger the better". For B16a2 engine, I have seen around 190hp max, which is very good for 1.6 lt engine. On the other hand, I have seen 260hp, with 2.1lt bored out sleeved B20 (from 99+ CRV) block with B16 head and heavy headwork off course. I personally owned a B16/B20 hybrid EK Civic, it was funniest to drive. (an example application: http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/lsvtec/lsvtec.php )


    For the K20 users, I think there is a vast amount of improvement opportunity with K24 (from CRV or TSX-I am sure there are places in Germany with wrecked Honda's) blocks. K-series is a gifted series with a miracle called Hondata (just with Hondata-and exhausts, a K20a2 did a gain of 20hp on the dyno in front of me!). Provided that you have a dependable, capable mechanic (don't even think about it if you don't have a mechanic who knows what to do), the best thing to do with a EP3 type-r is to install K24 bottom, and enjoy the torque and the power (neighbourhood of 260-270hp, without custom pistons, camshafts etc).

    There is just one question about hybrid engines, can anybody get it approved by the Governmental Agencies? Is it possible to have them approved? I personally, don't think it is possible due to restrictive EU norms (as far as I kno, in Belgium for examle, you can not put even a single exhaust tip). In Us, you can put engines, if it is newer than the chasis. In some other countries, you need an Expert Engineering firm to draw the project and approve it, and therefore it is possible to get it legal.

    I'd like hear your opinions on the topic also.

  • #2
    Frankly I didn't see any hybrid models in Romania yet.
    About puting aftermarket parts on cars and bikes, all I can say is that is possible but only if they are registered and approuved by R.A.R.
    About the engine changeing ...yes it is like in other countries...if you want in legal you must bring a project done by a mechanical engineer to R.A.R. and you'll have a stamp, on the id card of the car, that will show a personal homologation, and of course the new serial no of the engine will be on that id card.
    I think is a little too much because even when you change your color you must go to certifie it and you have to make a lot of moves to solve the problem...but when you change the engine...
    If sex was like FireBlade or S2000 nobody would worry about performance.

    2002 Honda CBR 954 RR FireBlade
    ex - 1986 Honda MT5
    ex - 1997 Honda CBR 900 RR FireBlade
    ex - 2001 Honda Civic Type-R
    ex - 2007 Honda Jazz

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    • #3
      I have seen a couple of Prius , but test drive cars , i heard that Toyota acctualy sold one
      2006 Honda Accord 2.0 ES MT
      2007 Suzuki Swift Sport
      2008 Subaru Forester 2.5 XT 4-EAT

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      • #4
        :lol: :lol:
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gandalf
          I have seen a couple of Prius , but test drive cars , i heard that Toyota acctualy sold one
          Actually, what we mean by "hybrid"is not electrical/mechanical hybrids.

          We are talking about engine transplants between cars.

          Wordwise, you are right, but there is no other phrase to define this 8)

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          • #6
            Here's a nice hybrid:
            http://www.theksource.com/news/04/19...-dyno-results/

            k24a2 with a k20a2 head and transmission, plus a header, CAI and K-pro ECU: 231 whp. Not bad.

            and some usefull tips about combining f20c and k20a parts:

            http://www.theksource.com/news/04/s2...series-motors/

            Edit: this topic is NOT about actual hybrid cars, but mixed engine parts.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BogdanCTR
              Here's a nice hybrid:
              http://www.theksource.com/news/04/19...-dyno-results/

              k24a2 with a k20a2 head and transmission, plus a header, CAI and K-pro ECU: 231 whp. Not bad.

              and some usefull tips about combining f20c and k20a parts:

              http://www.theksource.com/news/04/s2...series-motors/

              Edit: this topic is NOT about actual hybrid cars, but mixed engine parts.
              The links you posted are wrecked
              Fetele mele : http://foto.webalice.it/stoicamarius

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