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    @octi_b: pai, sedanul tau e facut in Japonia, al meu in Turcia. Al tau scartaie, al meu nu. Concluzia?
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    Concluzia e ca atunci scartaitul e un feature, nu-i un bug; al tau are o problema ca nu scartaie
    Fii cu ochii pe cilindrul ala de ambreiaj, poate te trezesti intr-o noapte fara el
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    OMG, pai atunci trebuie sa-mi pazesc si macaraua si chederul de la geamul soferului, ca nici alea n-au facut nici o problema.

    Serios vorbind, a mai scartait si la mine din cand in cand, pe la vreo 12.000 km, dupa aia a tacut.
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    ca sa nu deschid un topic separat =>

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...rticle4217738/

    2012 Honda Civic Hybrid: Frugal but flawed

    When Honda introduced the first Insight in 1999, it was a lightweight hybrid vehicle that delivered the best fuel economy recorded in a non-electric production vehicle: 4.4 litres/100 km in town and a remarkable 3.9 litres/100 km on the highway. These numbers stood for years and were only recently bettered by the new Toyota Prius, which is good for 3.7 city/4.0 highway.

    The latest version of the Civic Hybrid, which got a small makeover for 2012, is almost as thrifty as the original Insight, rated at 4.4 city/4.2 highway. Although not quite as frugal to operate, the Civic Hybrid is a much more civilized automobile. It shouldn’t be confused with the new Insight, by the way, which has a completely different body style and offers less performance.

    But where the original Insight was just a two-seater and afflicted with an exceptionally homely body style, the Civic Hybrid seats five and is as easy on the eyes as a regular Civic sedan. It still utilizes the latest incarnation of Honda’s Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) program, but now has a CVT only, which is its undoing. The original Insight came with a manual gearbox, although a CVT was introduced in 2000.

    It’s too bad Honda doesn’t offer a decent transmission with the Civic Hybrid, because it could use one. I found the CVT – as ever – to be snatchy, unpredictable and crude. Honda has pretty much perfected hybrid drive technology and a decent transmission would really hit the spot here.

    The 2012 Civic Hybrid features a 1.5-litre, four-cylinder gas engine, up slightly in size over last year, married to an electric motor with a lithium-ion battery pack that, for 2012, is larger than before. Together, the electric motor and internal combustion engine deliver 110 horsepower, with 127 lb-ft of torque. This is enough to pull the Civic Hybrid along at a decent clip, but don’t look for adrenalin-pumping performance here.

    Again, if the CVT was replaced by a proper gearbox, this would be a much nicer vehicle to drive, and, if I was in the market for a hybrid compact sedan, the CVT would be a deal-breaker for me.

    That said, this is still very much a Civic – which is a good thing.

    It has that built-in drivability factor that Honda does so well and has comfy seats, intelligent ergonomics and plenty of elbow room.

    2012 Honda Civic Hybrid

    One note here, however; over-the-shoulder peripheral visibility from the driver’s seat is terrible. When merging on to the highway on an on-ramp, for example, looking over your left shoulder can be frustrating. The roof pillars, combined with the seat headrests, block your line of sight, and no amount of craning your neck fixes this. You have to completely re-adjust the way you merge, because your mirrors are no good here either. It’s annoying and potentially dangerous.

    Otherwise, no serious gripes. The Civic Hybrid features easy-to-understand graphics and you can keep track of your ongoing fuel consumption via the car’s “Eco Assist” feature. This handy little gizmo lets you keep track of your gas supply via a set of blue and green illuminated bars on either side of the speedometer. If they’re green, your economy is at its optimum. There is also a hard to miss “Econ” button that recalibrates the transmission and some of the accessories, and puts the drivetrain’s emphasis on fuel economy, rather than performance.

    Since the Civic Hybrid is no hot rod to begin with, the Econ mode turns the Civic Hybrid into one of the slower cars on the road – right up there with the Toyota Prius c.

    Elsewhere, all the usual electronic modcons are here. For example, the centre display monitor – what Honda calls iMID – does all kinds of things, most of which are pointless and distracting. You can load up your own personalized wallpaper, surf through satellite radio, access Bluetooth and use the “energy flow indicator” to strike an ongoing balance between gas and electric power, and minimize your emissions.

    Honda describes this as “the ultimate app.” I describe it as something that takes the driver’s attention away from what he/she should be doing: driving the car. Also, in direct sunlight, the monitor is hard to see. Back to the drawing board for this one, Honda.

    Despite its shortcomings – the grabby CVT, terrible over-the-shoulder visibility and a difficult-to-read centre monitor – the Civic Hybrid is nonetheless a nice car to spend time in. I’d take it over the Prius, for example, simply because it’s more comfortable and has better handling.

    It also has a reasonably high standard equipment level, with things like heated front seats, climate control, one-touch-up/down windows, a vehicle stability system, traction control and electronic brake distribution all standard. My tester had the navi package, which adds $1,300 to the price tag.
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    2012 Honda Civic Hybrid

    Type: Five-passenger hybrid sedan

    Base Price: $26,485; as tested, $27,845

    Engine: 1.5-litre four-cylinder with permanent magnet electric motor

    Horsepower/torque: 110 hp/127 lb-ft

    Transmission: CVT

    Drive: Front-wheel

    Fuel economy (litres/100 km): 4.4 city/4.2 highway; regular gas.

    Alternatives: Toyota Prius, Toyota Prius c, Kia Optima Hybrid, Hyundai Sonata Hybrid, Honda Insight, Ford Fusion Hybrid

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    Poate a mai fost dat anuntul dar azi am dat de asta: http://www.quattroruote.it/notizie/a...e-per-l-europa
    Last edited by Robby_Alessio; 06-06-12 at 21:59.

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    m-am urcat eu ieri in unul. nu pot spune ca m-a dat peste cap cu ceva. are si plastice mai bune si mai proaste fata de vechea generatie.

    estetic e ok, nu da rau.
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    Drive test Bucuresti - Brasov 17.16.2012
    -> varianta echipare de baza
    -> trei persoane in masina
    Pareri pro:
    - varianta de baza ofera destul de multe dotari, cred ca o sa fie cel mai bine vanduta
    - zgomotul in interior foarte redus, se vede ca au umblat la antifonare
    - motorul trage de jos, este foarte bun pentru oras
    - suspensie confortabila pentru drumurile noastre
    - spatiu interior mare, loc destul la picioare pentru cei care stau in spate
    - portbagaj suficient pentru catel, purcel, mobila..sau ce mai cara romanul

    Pareri contra:
    - scaunul soferului: oribil, m-am simtit ca in Clio
    - pozitia la condus: nu este buna, dupa drumul asta m-a durut spatele ca in Clio
    - cutia agata la treapa a treia (posibil sa fie doar la masina asta)
    - interiorul cu mult plastic prost, gen Logan
    - masina nu iti permite sa te 'joci' pe curbe din cauza suspensiei

    Concluzie drive test:
    - consum mediu parca 8,7%
    - masina este pentru familisti
    - se adreseaza soferului pentru care maximul de adrenalina inseamna oprirea modului Econ (care este degeaba oricum)
    - mie nu imi place, sper ca Honda sa-si spele pacatele si sa introduca un model Type R
    Ex: Civic 1.8 Executive NHB 2007/ Del Sol ESI
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramm View Post
    - masina nu iti permite sa te 'joci' pe curbe din cauza suspensiei
    Nu mai este independenta? Iar 8.7% consumul mediu... ati fugarit-o oleaca sper
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramm View Post
    - motorul trage de jos, este foarte bun pentru oras
    WTF, asta are alt motor decat 5D-ul?
    Aaa, nu, stiu: e mult mai usoara. Parca e mai usoara si decat actualul sedan.
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    O masina extrem de urata de oriunde te-ai uita. N-am gasit nici macar un unghi din care sa aduca a masina a anului 2012. Iar interiorul..... eu cred ca le-a luat Dumnezeu mintile: nu cred sa mai existe vre-un model cu un design atat de tampit pentru comenzile radio- o chestie bulbucata inutil facuta dintr-un plastic de toata jena. Parerea mea este ca e cea mai urata honda din toate timpurile.
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    M-am urcat si eu weekend-ul trecut si in 5D si in Sedan. Cel mai mult m-au surprins scaunele din Sedan. Si fotoliul bunicii mele are sustinere laterala mai buna, si nu te dai cu fotoliul prin sufragerie. Iar la 5D n-am inteles ce-a fost in mintea lor, facand tapiteria usilor fata atat de colturoasa in zona in care se imbina cu bordul, cand inchizi usa. Slab, prost, urat si fara logica. Jalnice masini...

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrei_r View Post
    Nu mai este independenta? Iar 8.7% consumul mediu... ati fugarit-o oleaca sper
    Ba da, dar este prea moale. Am incercat ceva, dar nu prea iese

    Quote Originally Posted by octi_b View Post
    WTF, asta are alt motor decat 5D-ul?
    Aaa, nu, stiu: e mult mai usoara. Parca e mai usoara si decat actualul sedan.
    Tot 1.8 este motorul, nu pot sa explic senzatia.
    Ex: Civic 1.8 Executive NHB 2007/ Del Sol ESI
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    Cam mult spus jalnice masini pentru o imbinare ar trebui sa fie un filtru pe acest forum pentru tot felul de afirmatii aruncate din tren ptr ca benzina este prea scumpa si s-a revenit la transportul in comun se pare...
    Scuze pentru un posibil flame dar nu am rezistat sa nu postez un ”comment”

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    Nici mie nu-mi place noul sedan, lista de motive fiind destul de lunga.
    Nomercu, ce faci tu e flame in toata regula. Si vezi ca benzina s-a mai ieftinit putin!
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