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ticker
04-09-08, 20:29
Deocamdata doar Conceptul:

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/09/honda-insight-hybrid-revealed-prior-to.html (http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/09/honda-insight-hybrid-revealed-prior-to.html)

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080904.013/honda-reveals-insight-concept-for-paris (http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080904.013/honda-reveals-insight-concept-for-paris)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/SL_2mv83-RI/AAAAAAAA32c/z3M9Xdyr9rE/s400/Honda-Insight-Concept-Hybrid-3.jpg

tokyodream
04-09-08, 21:10
Eu zic ca e varianta de serie care apare anul viitor in aprilie :)

PS - superba !

bertro
04-09-08, 21:33
desi nu ma omor dupa fundul cam "priusist", arata super si e un mare bonus pt fanii Insight. am vazut cu cata pasiune isi ingrijesc masinile. cand vezi cate una prin vreo parcare nici nu-ti vine sa crezi ca unele au deja 8-9 ani.

tokyodream
04-09-08, 21:34
Costa 18.500 dolari:

http://jalopnik.com/5045333/new-honda-insight-hybrid-revealed-18500-price-tag-still-expected (http://jalopnik.com/5045333/new-honda-insight-hybrid-revealed-18500-price-tag-still-expected) :)

YoZ
04-09-08, 21:42
arata frumos..

dumiflo
05-09-08, 08:34
arata ok ... da' vreau sa o vad in carne si oase :D

liviuiron
05-09-08, 13:51
arata super !
ai idee si despre ceva motorizari ? probabil ca inca nu ...

bertro
05-09-08, 14:09
probabil motorul de 1.3L@ 90CP + electric@20CP care e si pe Civic.
m-as fi asteptat sa implementeze si un mod de functionare electric-only cum e la Prius, dar din ce spune articolul, se pare ca tot conceptul IMA va fi folosit. Cam naspa. Desi IMA-ul e o tehnologie misto, eu zic ca incepe sa fie cam depasita. In ziua de azi in care aglomeratiile in orase devin din ce in ce mai mari si ai din ce in ce mai multe sanse sa te tarai cu 5km/h bara la bara, un mild hybrid nu prea te ajuta. ma uit la a mea.... in trafic bara la bara foarte incet, consumul instantaneu e mereu pe la 10L/100. Un prius in situatia asta merge pe electric si are consum zero.

liviuiron
05-09-08, 14:14
pai din cate am inteles eu, nu se stiu concret motorizarile ... cine stie ce au de gand ?:)

ticker
05-09-08, 14:38
poate pun 1,4 i-VTEC 100 CP sau 1,5 i-VTEC 120 CP (putem visa frumos nu?)

liviuiron
05-09-08, 15:59
ticker : ar fii mortala combinatia :D

bertro
05-09-08, 18:19
si motorul de 1.3 cum am eu foloseste i-VTEC, dar intr-un fel putin diferit fata de non-hibride: pe langa clasicul 3-stage valve timing care rezulta in acceleratie mai buna, i-VTEC e folosit la hibride si pentru a inchide complet toate cele 8 valve in momentul in care iei piciorul de pe acceleratie. In felul asta frana de motor e aproape inexistenta si toata energia cinetica poate fi folosita de IMA pentru a reincarca bateria (lucru care in final rezulta intr-o franare mai puternica a masinii decat daca s-ar folosi frana de motor).
E misto sa vezi cum daca iei piciorul de pe acceleratie la 100 m de un semafor pe drum drept, consumul se duce la zero si mergi gratis pana ajungi la stop. la fel la vale :)

on-topic: nu cred ca ar vrea sa bage motoare mai mari de 1.3 pe Insight, pt tinta masinii e un fuel economy cat mai bun (insight-ul original avea motor de 1L).
Nici nu ar fi nevoie de mai mult decat cei 110CP ai motorului de 1.3+IMA. Masina nu pare mai mare decat Civic si civicul hibrid accelereaza super bine chiar si cu 5 persoane la bord si portbagajul plin. Chiar si sub 100 CP cred ca ar face fata cu brio.
Puii mei, Nova mea avea 70CP si zbura fara probleme in 140km/h cu masina si portbagajul pline.

liviuiron
05-09-08, 19:29
eu am 86 cp pe civicul meu si chiar face fata cu brio .
nu am facut deocamdata niciodata un drum mai lung de 400 km
insa sper ca o sa reusesc in toamna asta sa vin in tara ceea ce inseamna peste 1500km
sunt curios cum se comporta la distanta mare facuta intr-un timp relativ scurt .
tinand cont de faptul ca, cu fiat punto am reusit sa fac 1500 km in 16-17 ore ... as avea pretentii mai mari acum :D insa ceva imi spune ca va fii mai mult decat ok.
oricum, motorizrile noului model de honda poate fii oricare, imp este sa fie de calitate .

BogdanRR
06-09-08, 12:59
1.4 de pe Jazz din Europa este de aceeasi clindree cu 1.3 din Japonia, dar se declara diferit din motive de marketing (in Europa mai e disponibil si 1.2, derivat tot din cel de mai sus). La Hybrid, este acelasi motor declarat cu 1.3 peste tot in lume.

Masina asta e de fapt Global Small Hybrid cu care zicea Honda ca vrea sa faca volum mare. Ma bucur mult ca au pastrat numele de Insight, mai ales ca modelul original era ceva de exceptie la vremea lui (produs integral din aluminiu, la aceeasi fabrica in care se facea NSX, consum extrem de redus, design extrem de indraznet).

Cel mai probabil, va avea noul i-VTEC 1.3 de 100cp plus IMA de ~20cp. Ceea ce e mai mult decat suficient, dupa parerea mea.

tokyodream
06-09-08, 14:47
Foarte interesant:

http://jalopnik.com/5045947/honda-insight-vs-toyota-prius-separated-at-birth (http://jalopnik.com/5045947/honda-insight-vs-toyota-prius-separated-at-birth) :D

BogdanRR
06-09-08, 15:26
Vorba cuiva de la comentarii, cand Prius fura spatele de la CRX, n-a comentat nimeni nimic, dar acum, cand Honda isi revendica spatele pt simplul motiv ca este mai aerodinamic, gata, e leit Prius.:rolleyes:

hondatu
12-09-08, 12:12
Imi place masina si imi pare rau ca nu pot ajunge la Salonul Auto de la Paris. Sper sa o vad anul viitor la Geneva, dar cu un Insight in 5usi, trebuie mai intai sa ma obisnuiesc.:(:o

tokyodream
26-09-08, 13:54
Premiera video:

http://www.stiriauto.ro/articol/4732/Versiunea-de-productie-a-hibridului-Honda-Insight--filmata-in-actiune/ (http://www.stiriauto.ro/articol/4732/Versiunea-de-productie-a-hibridului-Honda-Insight--filmata-in-actiune/) :)

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Video/Search-Results/Video/Secret-New-Cars/Honda-Insight-hybrid-2009-spy-video/

tokyodream
02-10-08, 13:24
De la Paris:

http://auto.ro/salon-auto-paris/paris-2008-honda-insight--mai-multe-informatii (http://auto.ro/salon-auto-paris/paris-2008-honda-insight--mai-multe-informatii)

BogdanRR
02-10-08, 13:41
Foarte misto, imi place. Acum sa vedem si varianta finala, dar nu cred ca va fi prea diferita...exceptand bineinteles butoanele tip touch-screen (cool!).

dumiflo
02-10-08, 16:56
alte poze :
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9081002.014/honda-insight-concept-unveiled-in-paris

vladone
02-10-08, 19:09
este foarte frumoasa. sunt tare curios dk va ramane interiorul identic. oricum, incep sa apara si hybride frumoase si la preturi ok, noroc cu honda :D

Achim
02-10-08, 21:24
Vorba cuiva de la comentarii, cand Prius fura spatele de la CRX, n-a comentat nimeni nimic, dar acum, cand Honda isi revendica spatele pt simplul motiv ca este mai aerodinamic, gata, e leit Prius.:rolleyes:

taman ce vroiam sa zic ca seamana putin cu Priusu :D

da' dak asa cum au mai spus si altii mai sus, nu merge si strict electric ca Priusul nu au facut nimic :(

tokyodream
03-10-08, 08:10
http://www.promotor.ro/hobby-concepte-auto/articol-honda-insight-expus-la-paris-2008-3127779 (http://www.promotor.ro/hobby-concepte-auto/articol-honda-insight-expus-la-paris-2008-3127779)

BogdanRR
03-10-08, 12:44
Asta e doar un model entry-level hybrid, adica unul pt toata lumea.
Exceptand briz-brizurile tipice unui prototip, se vede clar ca interiorul a fost facut cat mai simplu si mai cost-efficient, ceva in genul lui Jazz. Si tot pt ca este un model entry level au pastrat acelasi sistem, imbunatatit la partea de stocare a curentului electric si la recuperarea energiei la volanta (de fapt acolo unde in mod normal era volanta). Bateriile sunt to NiMH, adica mai ieftine, dar si suficient de eficiente pt sistemul asta. Sper din tot sulfetul ca masina sa fie mai usoara, pt ca asta conteaza f mult.

tokyodream
03-10-08, 15:24
Honda Insight Hybrid Concept: The Full Monty with Mega Gallery (http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/10/honda-insight-hybrid-concept-full-monty.html) :


http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/10/honda-insight-hybrid-concept-full-monty.html (http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/10/honda-insight-hybrid-concept-full-monty.html)

BogdanRR
03-10-08, 16:10
Pt cei care insista pe asemanarea cu Prius...
Oameni buni, cand au aparut Prius si Insight pt prima oara, aratau asa:
http://www.cars.com/features/mvp/honda/insight/images/main_insight.jpg

Dupa care, Toyota s-a prins de faza cu forma aerodinamica a Insight si au venit cu forma pe care o stim azi.

Acum vine Insight 2 si toata lumea striga "Prius!", cand de fapt este doar o prelungire a vechiului Insight, dar cu bot de FCX si fara capacul ala pe roata din spate (desi avea si ala rolul lui).

Ce usor uita lumea!:confused:

vladone
03-10-08, 17:21
parca tot insight-ul era mai misto :)

BogdanRR
03-10-08, 17:31
Si mie imi place f mult Insight 1, arata clar a "statement" si in plus de asta era fabricat integral din aluminiu si pe aceeasi linie de productie cu S2000 (volanul e identic).

Achim
04-10-08, 04:43
Ce usor uita lumea!:confused:

eu nu am negat niciodata ci doar am spus ca ma pregateam sa exclam si eu la fel :D

si nu e vba de uitat, e vba de mediatizare... de Prius stie f multa lume :rolleyes:

tokyodream
06-10-08, 12:01
Honda mulls producing Insight hybrid in India :


http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Honda-mulls-producing-Insight-hybrid-in-India/368348/ (http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Honda-mulls-producing-Insight-hybrid-in-India/368348/)

VIDEO:

http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/video-paris-2008-honda-insight-rivalul-lui-prius-15315.html

tokyodream
07-10-08, 10:55
http://automobiles.honda.com/insight-hybrid/blog.aspx (http://automobiles.honda.com/insight-hybrid/blog.aspx)

http://jalopnik.com/5059407/honda-insight-drives-into-the-blogosphere (http://jalopnik.com/5059407/honda-insight-drives-into-the-blogosphere)

tokyodream
11-10-08, 19:59
De la PARIS 2008:

http://www.automobiletv.ro/event.php?id=230 (http://www.automobiletv.ro/event.php?id=230) :)

tokyodream
12-10-08, 16:22
Un site despre hybride:

http://world.honda.com/Hybrid/ (http://world.honda.com/Hybrid/)

tokyodream
21-11-08, 10:42
Inca un pas si-l batem pe Prius la consum:

http://www.stiriauto.ro/articol/5152/Hibridul-Honda-Insight-invata-soferii-sa-conduca-ecologic/ (http://www.stiriauto.ro/articol/5152/Hibridul-Honda-Insight-invata-soferii-sa-conduca-ecologic/)



YouTube - Honda Insight Concept L.A. Auto Show First Look (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9H0MHWVH14)

Lucian77
03-12-08, 19:01
Honda Insight - în varianta de producţie
Honda a dat publicităţii astăzi o primă fotografie a noului său hibrid, Insight, în varianta de producţie. Noul Honda Insight îşi va face debutul mondial la Salonul Auto de la Detroit, în ianuarie 2009, urmând a fi lansat ulterior pe piaţă.

sursa:http://www.informatiiauto.ro/premiera-honda-insight-in-varianta-de-productie-sid3713.html

Achim
03-12-08, 19:52
am fost la Londra o expozitie f f tare... nu va dau mai multe detalii pana cand nu scot pozele si nu va dau toata povestea cum se cuvine...

un singur hint: am vazut live FCX Clarity :cool::eek::D

tokyodream
03-12-08, 20:58
http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/oficial-prima-imagine-cu-hibridul-honda-insight-16699.html (http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/oficial-prima-imagine-cu-hibridul-honda-insight-16699.html)

aleksey
03-12-08, 20:58
seamna dar nu rasare , prototipul era foarte frumos, varianta de productie e bleah

dum
04-12-08, 09:22
Honda Insight vine si in Romania in primavara/vara lui 2009
cu un pret sub actualul Civic Hibrid

http://www.mediafax.ro/economic/noul-model-hibrid-honda-insight-va-fi-lansat-in-romania.html?1686;3601680

hondatu
04-12-08, 11:01
@Achim: ai avut voie sa iei loc in FCX?:eek:
Intreb fiindca la zilele de vizita ale publicului larg de la salonul de la Geneva, conform spuselor lui Dan, nu s-a dat voie. In schimb la zilele de presa s-a dat voie.

Achim
04-12-08, 13:29
asa mi-au zis si mie cei de la CM :D

hondatu
05-12-08, 00:16
Pai ei daca vor pot sa mearga la zilele de presa........:confused::confused:

tokyodream
09-12-08, 10:27
Wieden & Kennedy picks up Honda green ad account :

http://www.brandrepublic.com/Discipline/Advertising/News/867886/Wieden---Kennedy-picks-Honda-green-ad-account/ (http://www.brandrepublic.com/Discipline/Advertising/News/867886/Wieden---Kennedy-picks-Honda-green-ad-account/)

tokyodream
11-12-08, 13:16
http://www.capitalul.ro/auto-news/noul-model-hibrid-honda-insight-va-fi-lansat-in-romania.html (http://www.capitalul.ro/auto-news/noul-model-hibrid-honda-insight-va-fi-lansat-in-romania.html) :)

http://www.autonovo.ro/stiri/stiri-si-noutati/modelul-hibrid-honda-insight-lansat-in-romania/217 - pret sub 22.000 euro cu TVA inclus

tokyodream
17-12-08, 12:22
2009 Honda Insight :

http://blogs.automobilemag.com/6388515/green/2009-honda-insight/index.html (http://blogs.automobilemag.com/6388515/green/2009-honda-insight/index.html)

hondatu
18-12-08, 10:54
Auto Bild ne povesteste ca in Germania pretul de pornire va fi de 18.500, ceea ce ar face cel mai rentabil hibrid de pe piata.
Il asteptam!

ticker
18-12-08, 19:43
ciudat sa fie la acelasi pret si in Romania (vezi postul lui tokyo) si in Germania...

tokyodream
18-12-08, 19:47
Costa 18.500 dolari:

http://jalopnik.com/5045333/new-honda-insight-hybrid-revealed-18500-price-tag-still-expected (http://jalopnik.com/5045333/new-honda-insight-hybrid-revealed-18500-price-tag-still-expected) :)

18.500 dolari in SUA => 18.500 euro in Europa :yes:
Merit o Honda,nu ? :evil:

tokyodream
31-12-08, 09:58
Noutati:

http://www.stiriauto.ro/articol/5373/Honda-Insight-s-a-dezvaluit-pe-internet-neoficial/ (http://www.stiriauto.ro/articol/5373/Honda-Insight-s-a-dezvaluit-pe-internet-neoficial/)

tokyodream
04-01-09, 10:02
18.000 dolari:

http://www.promotor.ro/noutati-auto-masini-noi/articol-honda-insight-hybrid-informatii-neoficiale-3696458 (http://www.promotor.ro/noutati-auto-masini-noi/articol-honda-insight-hybrid-informatii-neoficiale-3696458)

tokyodream
05-01-09, 20:53
Poze noi, se lanseaza saptamana viitoare :)

http://www.promotor.ro/noutati-auto-masini-noi/articol-honda-insight-hybrid-versiunea-de-serie-3605278 (http://www.promotor.ro/noutati-auto-masini-noi/articol-honda-insight-hybrid-versiunea-de-serie-3605278)

tokyodream
06-01-09, 17:46
Yuppy, e gata de drum:

http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/galerie-foto-asa-arata-honda-insight-pentru-europa-17455.html (http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/galerie-foto-asa-arata-honda-insight-pentru-europa-17455.html)

andrei_r
07-01-09, 13:35
Sa vedem la ce pret... si performantele clare, nu "de pe net".

tokyodream
07-01-09, 16:24
20-22.000 euro , cred :) - la noi !

tokyodream
08-01-09, 17:17
Honda Insight: detalii tehnice si galerie foto :

Multumita revistei oficiale a Honda din Belgia, numarul din luna ianuarie, nu trebuie sa mai asteptam pana la aparitia vehiculului Honda Insight la salonul auto de la Detroit pentru a va oferi toate detaliile tehnice despre masina. Autoturismul “verde” va folosi acelasi propulsor hibrid ca si Honda Civic IMA Hybrid, combinand un motor in patru cilindri pe benzina, de 1.3 litri, care dezvolta 88 CP la 5.800 rpm si un cuplu de 123 Nm la 4.600 rpm cu un motor electric care produce 13.6 CP si un cuplu de 103 Nm.

Consum mixt de 4.4 litri/100 km si 101 g/km emisii :

Propulsorul hibrid este cuplat un sistem de transmisie continuu variabila (CVT). De asemenea, Honda Insight utilizeaza un set de baterii pentru a stoca energia (http://ad2.arbocontext.ro/please/redirect/110/2/1/32/!hash=82721108;h4r=2177863234;p4r=305429881;uwi=80 0;uhe=600;uce=1;param=814/31727_5?) care, altfel, este irosita in timpul franarii. Apoi, energia astfel recuperata este folosita pentru functionarea motorului electric. Honda sustine ca noul sau vehicul hibrid are un consum mixt de 4.4 litri/100 km si emisii de doar 101 g/km.

In comparatie cu Honda Insight, hibridul Honda Civic are un consum mixt de 4.6 litri/100 km, iar Toyota Prius III, care va fi in curand inlocuit, 4.3 litri/100 km si 104 g/km emisii CO2.

Dimensiuni:

In ceea ce priveste dimensiunile, cel mai nou vehicul ecologic produs (http://ad2.arbocontext.ro/please/redirect/110/2/1/32/!hash=82721108;h4r=2176774210;p4r=305433208;uwi=80 0;uhe=600;uce=1;param=812/13471_5?) de Honda este mai compact decat actuala generatie de Toyota Prius, masurand 4.39 m in lungime, 1.69 m in latime si 1.42 m in inaltime (Prius: 4.45 m x 1.72 m x 1.49 m).

Variante de echipare si dotari:

Honda Insight va fi disponibil in doua variante de echipare: Comfort si Elegance. Vehiculul va avea standard ABS, sistemul de control al stabilitatii - VSA (Vehicle Stability Assist), airbaguri, jenti din aliaj de 15 inci, clima si radio-CD. Versiunea Elegance primeste in plus sistem Bluetooth, parcare asistata, sistem cruise control, faruri de ceata, scaune fata incalzite si senzori de ploaie.

Sursa: carscoop.blogspot.com


http://www.stiriauto.ro/articol/5403/Honda-Insight--detalii-tehnice-si-galerie-foto/ (http://www.stiriauto.ro/articol/5403/Honda-Insight--detalii-tehnice-si-galerie-foto/)

Achim
09-01-09, 19:19
Honda Insight less fuel efficient than Prius :( : http://www.hondafan.ro/forum/showthread.php?p=204176#post204176

tokyodream
09-01-09, 21:03
diferenta e infima........... nu ai de ce sa fii suparat.
hai sa le vedem la un drive-test :)

tokyodream
12-01-09, 06:29
Noutati de la DETROIT:

http://www.promotor.ro/noutati-auto-masini-noi/articol-honda-insight-hybrid-versiunea-de-serie-3605278 (http://www.promotor.ro/noutati-auto-masini-noi/articol-honda-insight-hybrid-versiunea-de-serie-3605278)

Utilizând acest sistem hibrid, autonomia maşinii poate ajunge până la 400 mile (aproape 650 km), în condiţiile în care consumul urban este de 40 mpg (5,9 litri/100 km), iar cel extraurban de 43 mpg (5,4 litri/100 km). De asemenea, bateriile şi motorul electric au rol de overboost, în cazul în care este nevoie de o accelerare în forţă.

Honda Insight mai beneficiază de tehnologia Ecological Drive Assist System (ECO Assist), care, printre altele, gestionează cutia de viteze automată CVT sau anunţă permanent şoferul de condiţiile de consum.
În ce priveşte securitatea, pe lângă bateria completă de airbaguri frontale şi cortină, sistemul ABS şi tetierele active, caroseria noii Honda Insight este concepută pentru protecţia pietonilor, beneficiind de tehnologia Advanced Compatibility Engineering (ACE).

Pe lângă o serie de dotări de serie peste media maşinilor compacte, Honda Insight se poate lăuda cu o bună modularitate: datorită bateriei compacte, situată sub planşeu, a fost posibilă adoptarea unei banchete fracţionabile 60/40, cu un portbagaj mare, care satisface nevoile celor 5 pasageri.

Honda Insight urmează să fie comercializată în America din aprilie 2009, la un preţ mai mic decât actuala Honda Civic Hybrid (care costa 23.650 USD).

Aveti un video de 10 minute si 47 poze :)

tokyodream
12-01-09, 09:50
Am vazut si filmuletul, va recomand sa sariti la minutul 4-5 :)

Achim
12-01-09, 12:45
atata timp cat consuma cat Priusul dar nu merge full electric nu mi se pare ca ar avea un avantaj

problema e ca Toyota au promovat f bine acel segment, si acest brand, "Prius" (din care btw, vor sa faca o noua marca de sine statatoare, cu 3-4 modele, care sa reprezinte segmentul hybrid)

tokyodream
12-01-09, 13:30
http://www.auto.ro/stiri/detroit-2009-honda-insight (http://www.auto.ro/stiri/detroit-2009-honda-insight) :

Cel mai nou model hibrid Honda, Insight, si-a facut debutul mondial la salonul Auto din Detroit, America de Nord.

Insight, modelul 2009, defineste o noua etapa in evolutia tehnologiei hibride prin folosirea unei versiuni noi a sistemului hibrid IMA, mai rentabile ca pret, fiind astfel mai accesibila clientilor de hibrizi din intreaga lume, prin combinarea unui consum de combustibil de 4,4 liri/ 100 km si doar 101 g/km de emisii CO2.

Hatchback-ul cu 5 usi imprumuta din caracteristicile stilului cat si din eficienta aerodinamica a modelul FCX Clarity alimentat cu celule de combustibil. Pentru a evidentia profilul dinamic, Insight a fost proiectat cu un centru de greutate coborat si un spatiu generos pentru un automobil cu 5 locuri, oferind clientilor atat manevrabilitate cat si un interior extraordinar de flexibil. http://www.auto.ro/assets/articole/2009/01/7764_insight.jpg
Pentru ca soferii de Insight sa beneficieze la maxim de tehnologia hibrid de la Honda, noul model are o noua caracteristica interactiva, tehnologie bazata pe un sistem de a asistenta a soferului care ajuta la reducerea consumului de combustibil, numita sistemul Ecological Drive Assist ( Eco Assist).

Eco Assist imbina mai multe functii:

• Functionalitatea ECON activata optimizeaza controlul asupra transmisiei, motorului si trenului de rulare si economiseste combustibil.

• O functie care foloseste o culoare de fundal pe vitezometru pentru a oferi indrumare instantanee in vederea atingerii unui consum redus
• O functie care inregistreaza economia de combustibil si ofera informatii asupra eficientei sofatului intr-un anumit moment sau chiar cumulat asupra stilului de a conduce vehiculul pe o perioada indelungata.

Elementele cheie de siguranta sunt reprezentate de Sistemul Advanced Compatibility Engineering (ACE), care ofera o siguranta sporita pasagerilor si ajuta la diminuarea coliziunilor cu alte vehicule; sase airbag-uri, incluzand pe cel al soferului si al pasagerului, cele laterale si tip cortina, cat si un design frontal al automobilului menit sa diminueze impactului pietonilor.

Alte echipari standard la noile modele Insight includ divizarea 60/40 a banchetei, aer conditionat automat, geamuri actionate electric, sistemul Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA - controlul stabilitatii si tractiunii), volan reglabil pe adancime si inaltime, sistem audio MP3 dotat cu conector audio auxiliar cu un sistem de control al volumului adaptabil la viteza (Speed-Sensitive Volume Control). http://www.auto.ro/assets/articole/2009/01/7763_insight.jpg

Unele modele Insight sunt prevazute cu Cruise Control, un sistem cu 6 difuzoare si interfata USB, padele pentru schimbat viteza amplasate in spatele volanului si un sistem de navigatie prin satelit cu recunoastere vocala.

Modelul Honda Insight este echipat cu un motor din aliaj de aluminiu de1,3 litri SOHC i-VTEC, cuplat la o cutie de viteza cu transmisie continua variabila - CVT. Motorul termic este caracterizat de o inalta eficienta si de frecari interne foarte mici facand din acesta, impreuna cu IMA (Integrated Motor Assist) , un hibrid economic cu emisii reduse.

Sistemul IMA include un motor electric avand 14 CP, un revolutionar grup de acumulatori, si un sistem compact de gestiune electronica IPU (Intelligent Power Unit) – fiind capabil sa acumuleze energia cinetica a autovehiculului pe durata franarii si decelerarii, furnizand putere suplimentara motorului termic atunci cand este necesar. Ansamblul ultra-compact al acunulatorilor si al unitatii de gestiune electronica (IPU) este pozitionat pe podeaua portbagajului, facand posibila rabatarea banchetelor spate 60/40, devenind astfel un hibrid cu un volum util marit.


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http://www.stiriauto.ro/articol/5422/Honda-Insight-a-fost-oficial-dezvaluita-la-Detroit/

".................. Honda si-a anuntat intentiile de a creste vanzarile globale de sisteme hibride la peste 500, 000 de unitati anual, Insight fiind urmata de un automobil bazat pe conceptul CR-Z (Compact Renaissance-Zero) si versiunea hibrida Jazz. :)

Daca Jazz hybrid apare anul viitor, inseamana ca in toamna apare CR-Z !!!

tokyodream
13-01-09, 07:54
First Drive: 2010 Honda Insight (http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1016778_first-drive-2010-honda-insight) :

http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1016778_first-drive-2010-honda-insight (http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1016778_first-drive-2010-honda-insight)

ticker
13-01-09, 10:42
Mie mi se pare ca e mai frumoasa dacat noul Prius. Ramane sa le analizez putin mai incolo cand sunt lansate oficial :)

tokyodream
13-01-09, 14:16
:( Pe prima pagina, se anunta ca vine dupa 1 iulie http://www.hondatrading.ro/index.html (http://www.hondatrading.ro/index.html) :(
Speram sa apara prin mai ..........

ticker
13-01-09, 14:44
Lasa Florine... poate strangi ceva banuti si iti iei tu prima ;)

Ce e dezamagitor e ca au lasat motorul pe benzina de 1,3 88CP i-VTEC (fata de 95 cat are pe Civic Sedan Hybrid)... :( + 14 CP de la IMA => 102 CP fata de 115 CP pe Civic Sedan Hybrid.

Deci downgrade si la motorul pe benzina si la IMA...

Ar fi fost altceva cu cel de 1,4 i-VTEC de 100 CP sau si mai bine cu 1,5 i-VTEC 120 CP... ma rog, o dezamagire in plus pt mine. :((

Nu zic, are o logica, dar nu vad de ce nu pot oferi Honda 2 motoare cuplate la IMA. In plus e destul de clar ca un motor mai mare poate fi chiar mai economic in anumite cazuri...

aleksey
13-01-09, 14:48
pai ai dreptate, prius are motor de 1.8 si este o idee mai mare si o idee mai economica , dar o mult mai scumpa din cate am inteles :)

Achim
13-01-09, 14:58
are motor de 1.5 si era mai scumpa cred si pentru faptul ca se foloseau de imagine si un oarecare monopol al hybridelor din gama
si Civic Sedan era mai scump la urma urmei

aleksey
13-01-09, 15:00
ma refer la noul prius , nu la cel vechi , din cate am inteles o sa aiba un motor de 1.8

Achim
13-01-09, 15:09
ah... primisem undeva de la Toyota un mail in care imi aratau site'ul de prezentare a noului Prius, o sa gasesc link'ul si il pun aici ;)

avantajul intr-o lupta a doua masini care sunt in competitie il detine cea care este lansata mai tarziu, pt ca stie deja cu ce se lupta si ce trebuie sa arunce in aceasta "batalie" pentru a fi in fata
cred ca se va justifica diferenta de pret
dar daca nu, si mie imi place Insight mai mult decat vechiul Prius

ticker
13-01-09, 15:53
Insight parca e mai mic decat Prius si nu sunt concurenti direct...

Oricum despre Prius:


The new engine is a beltless 1.8-liter four cylinder petrol generating 98 horsepower and 105 ft-lb of torque. This is a vast improvement over the previous engine, a 1.5-liter four banger with 70 hp and 82 ft-lb of torque.


:rotf:banger e si un colocvial pt rabla in engleza :D

Ce observ e ca la Prius-ul nou motorul electric are 38 CP ducand la un total de 136 CP :eek:

Adevarul e ca noul Prius imi place la Design. E mai indraznet decat Insight-ul.

Deci Honda are motoare... imi pare rau doar ca nu le pun pe masini.

tokyodream
13-01-09, 18:00
ah... primisem undeva de la Toyota un mail in care imi aratau site'ul de prezentare a noului Prius, o sa gasesc link'ul si il pun aici ;)

Asta http://www.toyota.com/prius-hybrid/ (http://www.toyota.com/prius-hybrid/) ???

dinoc
13-01-09, 20:17
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090112.024/2010-toyota-prius-unveiled

Citez ce mi s-a parut interesant la noul Prius:

"Its higher fuel economy is nearly 25% better than the first generation Prius."

"Its drag coefficient has been reduced to .25 from .26."

"Optional LED headlights also use less electricity than the standard headlights."

"Another available option is a solar sun roof which can power the ventilation system. When parked, it will use solar power to run fress air through the vents, in turn reducing the cabin temperature. By the time the driver returns to the vehicle, the interior is cooled down, and the driver is less likely to use the a/c."

"0-60mph time has improved to 9.8 seconds, down from 10.5. Drivers also have the option of choosing between three drive modes: EV, Eco, and Power."

Achim
14-01-09, 04:56
Asta http://www.toyota.com/prius-hybrid/ (http://www.toyota.com/prius-hybrid/) ???

nup... nu e asta http://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/index.html
acum a inceput sa mi se para ca noul Prius arata mai bine decat Insight
vechiul Prius era la concurenta daca vreti cu vechiul Insight... ceea ce iar nu era ok :goofy:

si ca vbim de Hybride... uite si o varianta de Corolla de la Lexus (Civic Hybrid... watch out)

The all-new Lexus HS250h brings two firsts to the Lexus nameplate: the first dedicated hybrid model and the first four-cylinder gas engine.

The much rumored Lexus HS elevates Toyota Motor Company’s hybrids into more affluent, leather loving, hippy garages. This is a hybrid for people that care more about being seen in a hybrid than saving the world in a hybrid.

Lexus has not revealed details but the automaker has said that the HS 250h’s fuel economy is 30-percent better than the most fuel-efficient model currently in the Lexus lineup. Expect to see the car (and more information about it) sooner than later.

http://japancarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/lexushs.jpg

Sursa & poze: http://japancarblog.com/lexus-hs-250h-an-upscale-prius/


Detroit 2009: Lexus HS250h, world's first dedicated luxury hybrid

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/detroit-2009-lexus-hs250h-live/1278698/

On the 20th anniversary of the unveiling of the original Lexus LS400 in Detroit, Toyota's premium brand debuted the world's first dedicated luxury hybrid. The HS250h shares many of its components with the third generation Prius that we will be seeing tomorrow, but unlike the hatchback, the HS is a compact four-door sedan with a healthy does of luxury.

Power is provided by Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive system, paired up with 187-hp, 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine. The HS is slightly longer than the current IS, slightly wider than the ES and will include all the usual amenities people expect on a luxury car, along with a lane departure prevention system that uses the electric power steering to help keep the car straight and true. Other features, like a heads up display that's clearly visible in daylight and LED headlights, are optional. The HS250h goes on sale this summer, and although pricing hasn't been announced yet, the automaker hopes to sell about 30,000-35,000 units annually.

Sursa & poze: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/11/detroit-2009-lexus-hs250h-worlds-first-dedicated-luxury-hybri/

pare cam tare :yepp::yes:

Achim
14-01-09, 05:58
Ah si ca sa fie sharada completa :D


Detroit 2009: Third-gen Prius arrives with 50 mpg combined rating

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/01/2010toyotapriuslive_06.jpg

After teasing us for months with photos of switches and boot up screens, followed by a leak of the whole car, Toyota finally dropped the third generation 2010 Prius today in Detroit. We already heard many of the mechanical details over the past year or so, but today it was confirmed that the Prius will get a combined EPA rating of 50 mpg. That's 50 mpg under the new tighter EPA testing method, mind you. The engine has been up-sized to 1.8L with an output of 98 hp and the total net output of the hybrid drive system is 134 hp.

The basic design is still instantly recognizable as a Prius, but the body does have a bit more character than before. Nonetheless the shape is smoother with a drag coefficient of just 0.25. The peak of the roof has now been moved back 4 inches giving the car a slightly less egg-shaped profile and increasing rear headroom. Aside from optional extras like LED headlights and lane departure prevention, the most interesting new option is the solar roof. A roof-mounted photo-voltaic panel will power the air recirculation system when the car sits in the sun, reducing the internal temps and the subsequent load on the air conditioning system. The Prius goes on sale later this spring but pricing hasn't been announced yet. Hit the jump to view video of the live press conference.

Sursa & poze: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/12/detroit-2009-third-gen-prius-arrives-with-50-mpg-combined-ratin/

si inca ceva amuzant :evil:


Detroit 2009: The top ten cars that still could not care less about fuel efficiency

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/features/news/12084237+w440/0812_01z+2009_mercedes-benz_sLR_stirling_moss+front_three_quarters_view.j pg

With the dramatic fluctuation of fuel prices in recent years, auto shows and the automakers that frequent them have focused more on green cars and increased efficiency. Gone are the days of supercar concepts like the Cadillac Cien and Chrysler ME412, as they're replaced by fuel sipping hybrids and range-extended electric vehicles. Still, a few manufacturers dare to bring gas-guzzlers to the joy of those who still enjoy tire-shredding horsepower. Click on the link below to see the top ten vehicles of the 2009 Detroit Auto Show that relentlessly celebrate smokey burnouts and completely unnecessary top speeds.

Sursa & poze: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/13/detroit-2009-the-top-ten-cars-that-still-could-care-less-about/

tokyodream
14-01-09, 14:47
Eu am auzit ca Lexus HS250h e facut pe baza lui Avensis :)

ticker
14-01-09, 15:00
Yup, e pe baza lui Avensis si are motor de 2,4 187 CP (ce nu are Corola).

Mai multe info aici: http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090111.026/2010-lexus-hs-250h-dedicated-hybrid-unveiled

Achim
14-01-09, 18:02
eu am luat-o strict ca aspect...
daca e pe baza lui Avensis... si mai tare atunci... cine nu ar vrea un Accord hybrid? :D

si intre timp :D


Honda talks more about its electric motorcycle plans

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autobloggreen.com/media/2009/01/honda_green_logo_250.jpg

Last month in his end-of-year speech, Honda CEO Takeo Fukui vowed that the Japanese company would release an electric motorcycle in 2010. It's been a few weeks and the import of that announcement has begun to sink in. Honda is the world's largest cycle manufacturer, so an EV wearing the red badge is sure to inspire competition from the other established players. What's more, as one of the world's top automakers and the one that's arguably most concerned with its environmental standing, the electron-powered two-wheeler could be a harbinger of things to come on the four-wheeled side as well.

As if our interest weren't already piqued, Honda has released another press release detailing its past eco-friendly motorcycle endeavors, which include hydrogen fuel cell-powered machinery, hybrids and fully electric concepts. After all of this testing, Honda says its electric motorcycle technology is suitable for both commercial and personal applications. Sounds great... just two more years to wait.

Sursa: http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/01/13/honda-talks-more-about-its-electric-motorcycle-plans/

pentru cei pasionati de subiect... exista http://www.autobloggreen.com/

cum sa faci asta? :eek: :rant:


Environmental group launches anti-Dakar Rally campaign

This year, the famous Dakar Rally has moved to South America because of security issues in its previous home in Africa. The race usually showcases the latest in all-road racing technology - diesel vehicles are doing well this year - but there's also the question of what is the real environmental impact of the race. One of Spain's most important environmental groups, Ecologistas en Acción, has asked the Rally to be finished early because of the environmental damage that more than 800 all-terrain vehicles are performing: for each 1,000 km of off-road motoring, one hectare (about 2.5 acres) is eroded. Then there is the high fuel consumption, noise and the general promotion of this type of "sport." Ecologistas en Acción thinks that the spirit of adventure and discovery themes of the adventure hide all too well the reality of big-engined vehicles running on heavyset frames through a natural environment.

tokyodream
14-01-09, 19:45
Draga Achime, eu am scris de cateva saptamani/luni de motociclete Honda + Yamaha electrice :)

Mai aruncati un ochi la PRESA !!!

Achim
14-01-09, 19:51
bai e prea stufos acolo... mai bine "ataci" exact subiectele clare...
sau le pui pe un blog ca sa le citim in Reader :)

tokyodream
14-01-09, 19:56
Off-topic:

http://newshonda.anyhow5.com/category/motociclete/ (http://newshonda.anyhow5.com/category/motociclete/) - stiri incepand din nov 2008 :)


VIDEO: Honda Insight se prezinta in detaliu :

http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/video-honda-insight-se-prezinta-in-detaliu-17711.html

tokyodream
16-01-09, 09:45
YouTube - 65+ MPG! - 2010 Honda Insight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYhgGBelfo)

tokyodream
18-01-09, 13:25
2010 Honda Insight EX Full Test and Video !


http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=139246 (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=139246)

Achim
20-01-09, 03:36
Comparison Test: 2010 Honda Insight vs. 2009 Toyota Prius

Psychologists have said that consumers have a three-week memory of fuel prices. If prices stay constant for more than three weeks, the buying public's decision-making ability becomes myopic and they act as though prices have never been different from what they are in the here and now.

And at this very moment, fuel prices have been below two bucks a gallon for about six weeks. Fuel is so cheap that we're considering igniting 55-gallon drums of the stuff in our front yards just for kicks.

Now, we don't know the hippocampus from a hippopotamus, but our instincts remind us that good times don't last forever. An increase in fuel prices in the near future is practically inevitable, and those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

That's where the all-new 2010 Honda Insight and 2009 Toyota Prius fit in. By shopping for fuel misers like these while gasoline is still cheaper than designer-bottled sugar water, savvy shoppers will dodge long dealership queues in the future and avoid forking out a premium for such cars — like they did in the summer of 2008.

Follow the Follower
You might remember the original Honda Insight. When introduced in 1999, it was the first hybrid vehicle sold in the U.S.A., an affordable technical tour de force that achieved spectacular fuel economy by adding a battery-assisted electric motor to the powertrain. But as a diminutive two-seater, it certainly wasn't a car for the masses.

It took Toyota's introduction of the Prius to stamp the word "hybrid" into the public consciousness and swell the ranks of hypermiling wonks. Boasting an extra pair of doors and a rear seat compared to the early Insight, the Prius was a real car suitable for families. That it looked the part of a hybrid sealed the deal among the socially conscious, and Toyota has ridden this wave of success to new heights, selling 181,221 examples of the Prius in 2007 alone.

In response, Honda has retooled the Insight formula for 2010 into a four-door package that paints a target dead smack on the Prius' nerdy forehead. The Insight's sheet metal is said to be shaped by the wind tunnel, but the general proportions and detailing are far too Prius-like to be coincidental. Honda's intentions with the Insight appear obvious — scale the heights of hybrid sales success by following in the Prius' footsteps.

The Cars
Often found clogging up the passing lanes of freeways all over the country, the Prius is now a common sight on public roads. The 2009 Toyota Prius we tested will blend right in, as it is largely unchanged from earlier models, right down to its 110-horsepower powertrain with its 1.5-liter engine and sophisticated hybrid system comprised of two electric motors and planetary gearsets. (A revised Prius is on the horizon for 2010, but it remains under wraps.)

Our Prius boasted its fuel economy of 48 mpg city/45 mpg highway on its price sticker and it was equipped with the $3,280 Package #5 option, including a navigation system, premium audio, satellite radio capability, Bluetooth, a back-up camera, stability control, cruise control and a few other items. This car is well-equipped but not the most fully loaded Prius variant available and checks in at $27,643.

The all-new 2010 Honda Insight merges an updated version of Honda's Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) hybrid system with a 1.3-liter, eight-valve inline-4, and the powertrain produces a combined output of 98 hp and 123 pound-feet of torque. The IMA system slots a 13-hp electric motor between the engine and continuously variable transmission (CVT) and it is juiced by a nickel-metal hydride battery pack behind the rear seats. Lithium-ion batteries would have cut the space requirement in half, chief engineer Yasunari Seki says, but were quickly rejected on the basis of cost.

And cost is the Insight's trump card. Honda's hybrid system is more basic than the Prius' NASA-grade hardware, yet its more affordable cost is the key to delivering the Insight's dirt-cheap sticker price. At least, we think it's dirt cheap. Pricing hasn't been formally announced, so we're going on whispers and hints from the Honda brass. But you can count on the Insight's official EPA fuel-economy rating of 40 mpg city/43 mpg highway, plus the fact that the car will be formally released on Earth Day, April 22, 2009.

Our scrutiny of Honda's marketing data makes us pretty confident that the model we drove — a fully optioned Insight EX with navigation — will sticker for very close to $22,170 with destination. If we're wrong, then we only request that you wait at least three weeks before composing your hate mail.

Static Electricity
When you climb inside a Prius, you're confronted with a decidedly unorthodox dashboard layout. There are no conventional gauges; instead the speed readout and general operational information peek out from a narrow slot at the base of the windshield. The climate control, audio and navigation controls are all embedded in a single, centrally located multifunction screen. Even the "gear" selector sprouts from the dash immediately to the right of the steering wheel. The Prius is a hybrid, dammit, and it won't let you forget that fact.

The Insight, however, trades a little zoominess for much improved function. There's a real gauge cluster in front of the driver and non-virtual heating and ventilation controls that fall immediately to hand. The Insight's cabin also places you in a driving position that's more natural than that of the Prius, and this is further enhanced by the Honda's telescoping steering wheel and height-adjustable seat.

These two latter features aren't available in the Prius, yet it desperately needs both of them. The Toyota's driving position seems scaled to Japanese bodies, not corn-fed American ones, so you can never place the tilt-only steering wheel in quite the right place. Simply put, you sit on the Prius and in the Insight.

If you think this means the Insight has the superior cabin, you'd only be half right. Full-size humans can find space and comfort in the backseat of the Prius, whereas in the Insight they will find only cramps. Your knees have to splay to accommodate the front seatback, while the tumblehome of the Insight's roof eats up precious headroom. You could say that swelled heads fit better in the back of the Prius.

Behind the backseats, it's pretty much a draw in cargo capacity, although Honda claims a bit more volume by the numbers than the Prius. It can also claim more volume of the acoustic variety, as the Honda is noticeably noisier than the Prius, and it doesn't come close to isolating its occupants from road roar and wind hiss in the way that the Toyota does.

Hedonists take note: The Prius boasts a back-up camera, HID headlights and keyless ignition, and you can't find these goodies on any Insight.

Nothing's Shocking
Economy with speed is as common as gravy-flavored ice cream, and these cars proved no exception once we placed our testing equipment on them. The Prius' 110-hp combined output propels it from a standstill to 60 mph in 10.4 seconds (10.1 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip), followed by the Insight in 10.9 seconds (10.5 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip). Off the line, however, neither of these hybrids feels as glacial as these numbers suggest thanks to the boost in low-end torque provided by the electric motors.

It's not just in acceleration that the Prius pips the Insight. The Prius also brakes shorter, coming to a halt from 60 mph in 120 feet, 5 feet fewer than the Insight. It also produces a quicker slalom speed, 61.8 mph compared to the Insight's 59.3 mph. Despite the numbers, the Prius' brake pedal feels like a lumpy mattress underfoot as the transition from regenerative braking to pure mechanical braking is clumsy, while the electric-assist steering responds with all the enthusiasm of warm tapioca.

Ride quality is an area where the Prius gets the nod, as it glides over pavement compared to the choppy springiness of the Honda. The flip side of the Honda's firmer suspenders comes in routine handling maneuvers, where it is more alert than the Prius. Likewise, the Insight's quicker and more naturally weighted steering imparts lots of confidence even in everyday driving. This transparency in the feel of the controls paired with the more user-friendly driving position help give the Insight a thin edge in our scoring evaluation.

VFX
20-01-09, 23:06
Honda Insight Gets Tacky With Euro Accessories (http://jalopnik.com/5135486/honda-insight-gets-tacky-with-euro-accessories)

Achim
21-01-09, 00:07
dai pe ele de ajunge masina cat GS450h (exagerez) :)

tokyodream
21-01-09, 10:35
Catalogul de accesorii:

http://www.promotor.ro/noutati-auto-masini-noi/articol-honda-insight-hybrid-informatii-neoficiale-3696458 (http://www.promotor.ro/noutati-auto-masini-noi/articol-honda-insight-hybrid-informatii-neoficiale-3696458)


http://www.auto.ro/stiri/honda-insight-a-primit-un-nou-kit-aerodinamic :)


VERSUS interesant pe 2 pagini:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=139686

tokyodream
24-01-09, 10:46
Honda Insight - test în Spania :

http://www.promotor.ro/teste-auto-test-in-premiera/articol-honda-insight-test-in-spania-3789982 (http://www.promotor.ro/teste-auto-test-in-premiera/articol-honda-insight-test-in-spania-3789982)

andrei_r
24-01-09, 14:19
Trebuie sa recunosc ca imi place foarte tare masinuta, pacat ca e destul de slabuta la motorizare :(

tokyodream
25-01-09, 20:48
Honda’s Insight hybrid marks the sweet spot!

Affordable new vehicle neatly combines price, efficiency and practicality !

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28676262/

During boom times, value can go out of style, as dedicated followers of fashion pursue the latest trends and jockey for position in the social order with their accoutrements.
Whether it is outsized McMansions or blinged-out SUVs, when the economy is expanding, more consumers feel entitled to show off a bit. Advertisements cater to such impulses, counseling people that they deserve to treat themselves to something special.
Increasing interest in value should make the 2010 Honda Insight hybrid a popular choice, whenever people decide to start buying cars again. Once people open their wallets, they will likely do so with a mind to maximize their value, and the Insight will be waiting for them.

“We have a great deal of confidence that the Insight is the right car at the right time,” said Dan Bonawitz, vice president of logistics for American Honda.

Some might say that value is synonymous with fuel economy. But while efficiency plays a part — because we don’t want to get hijacked at the pump next time prices swing north of $3 — value for car consumers has more to do with purchase price and practicality.
That’s why tiny fuel-efficient cars like the original two-seat Insight have sold poorly, and it’s also why many shoppers who liked the combination of spaciousness and efficiency in Toyota’s Prius were put off by its price — now around $23,500.
Honda’s goal in designing the 2010 Insight was to find the value sweet spot, and it looks like they’ve hit it. The Insight marks the best intersection yet of the plots for price, efficiency and practicality.

Engineers accomplished this by designing a hybrid system with a priority on cost rather than maximum efficiency, scoring more bang for the buck than glittering technology showcases that no one can afford. They wrapped it in a five-door hatchback body that packs maximum cabin space into minimal physical size.
Many more hatchbacks are likely to come to market in the next few years, as consumers respond rationally to the design’s inherent flexibility, but in the meantime Insight drivers can appreciate the ability to fold down the rear seats and slide in large objects from the hatch’s load floor.
While Honda engineers sought a rational balance between cost and efficiency in the Insight’s hardware, they included software aimed at making the car more efficient by coaching the driver to go light on the gas pedal.

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/090123-insight-int-bcol-730a.standard.jpg
Honda
The Insight’s dashboard color display changes to indicate relative efficiency without distracting the driver’s attention.
While the Prius and other hybrids have long featured video displays of fuel economy worthy of a Mario Brothers video game, Honda recognized the benefit of a simple approach: The color of the speedometer display changes to indicate relative efficiency without distracting the driver from the task of driving (the Insight’s speedometer is high-mounted at the base of the windshield, so that a driver can notice the color while still looking down the road).
The greener the display, the greener the driving. Floor it, and the speedometer quickly shifts to blue — this gives the driver a clear indication that he’s not driving as efficiently as he could. (I felt blue was sort of benign. A nice angry red might well have been aesthetically jarring, but it would have delivered an even more unmistakable message.)

The Insight’s onboard computer doesn’t stop with fuel economy. It not only shouts driving suggestions in real time like a soccer parent on the sidelines, it also keeps track of every detail like an obsessive baseball statistician.

Carmakers all charged up over electric cars (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28659906/)
Detroit auto show has electric atmosphere (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28624970/):



These stats inform a score shown on the dashboard in the form of a series of five plants. Drive green and each of the plants in succession will grow leaves. The goal is to fully leaf-out all five plants, but the scoring is on a curve, so it is harder to grow leaves on each new plant (Beware: leafs earned can be lost by later bad behavior!)
And the car tracks lifetime fuel economy. Again, a note of caution: There are no ways to suspend this lifetime scoring, so valets and mechanics can screw up your hard-earned fuel economy score. Worse yet, there are no settings for different drivers, so look for “Ruined my lifetime fuel economy score” to march up the top ten list of divorce reasons. Hell hath no fury like a woman whose fuel economy has been ruined by an inattentive husband.

Finally, if all this coaching has bounced off the driver’s thick cranium, the computer can directly intervene to prevent the driver from wasting gas.
Press the “Econ” button and the throttle-by-wire system will replace the virtual throttle cable with a virtual rubber band. This means throttle response becomes sluggish and elastic, dampening the effects of edgy drivers who ratchet the gas on and off with an approximation of what they wanted, rather than an automatic execution of what they actually requested.
With an automatic continuously variable transmission, this effect is largely invisible, but it does help with the gas mileage, according to Honda. And if you are about to be creamed by a truck and need to go now, pressing the gas to the floor overrides the Econ filter, with the engine room replying “aye, aye” to the order for flank speed.

The Insight’s cabin, like its hybrid drivetrain, was designed with a focus on cutting costs, and it shows. But while the interior features as much hard plastic as a Little Tykes Cozy Coupe play car, the reasonably plush fabric and clean design convey the impression that designers did their best while keeping your purchase price down.

The effect is not of insulting cheapness, just of an obvious frugality that makes the Honda Civic look opulent in comparison. Still, would it kill Honda to offer adjustable lumbar support as at least a band-aid for the crappiness of the Insight’s cheap seats? (The similarly, ahem, inexpensive Chevy Aveo has a lumbar adjuster on the driver’s seat.)
As with the interior appointments, cabin space is also similar to that of the sub-compact Fit, but the low-slung Insight gives up headroom. This isn’t a problem in the front seat, but the back seat lacks headroom for six-footers, and the cabin is just as cramped side-to-side as the Fit.

Of course, neither car would be a good choice for a long-distance trip because of uncomfortable seats and a busy ride, but the era of road-hugging weight is in the rear view mirror. The Insight’s back seat’s comfort is also eroded by a seat back that doesn’t recline and seat bottoms that don’t provide any thigh support.

Carmakers all charged up over electric cars (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28659906/)
Detroit auto show has electric atmosphere (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28624970/):



The doors open and close with a reassuring “thunk,” so it is not as if the car feels flimsy. And the hybrid system is smart enough that it doesn’t feel intrusive when it is regenerating power while braking. The Prius and Civic hybrid commit much more of a lurch as the generator turns kinetic energy into electrical potential energy. Such is the benefit of being the newest iteration of an emerging technology.

Achim
29-01-09, 16:22
2010 Honda Insight Spotted On Utah Ski Vacation

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The new hotness in dedicated hybrids was caught with a thin layer of fresh snow on top, while the driver we're assuming is enjoying Park City's famous slopes. The production 2010 Insight was unveiled in the flesh only a couple of weeks ago at the Detroit Auto Show to absolutely no fanfare, not even a press event. Even though we don't know the officially official base price on the car, it's expected to come in around $18,500 and with a conservative 41 MPG combined fuel economy, it should set hybrid buyers pants on fire when it hits showrooms. Perhaps this snow will cool 'em down a bit.

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Honda_CT
31-01-09, 19:01
atata timp cat consuma cat Priusul dar nu merge full electric nu mi se pare ca ar avea un avantaj


In documentatia oficiala a producatorului Honda, este prezentat sistemul IMA de pe '06 Civic Hybrid unde se discuta de faptul ca Civic-ul poate merge 100% electric daca ne deplasam cu maxim 50 km/h si avem turatia de maxim 1300 rpm.
Documentatia pentru noul Insight nu am vazut-o insa daca mentin aceleasi principii e posibil ca Insight-ul sa mearga si full electric in conditii similare.

Am sa caut respectiva documentatie sa o postez.

Achim
31-01-09, 19:03
suna bine... "cam" acelasi lucru il face si Priusul
eu m-am bazat pe afirmatiile proprietarilor de Civic hybrid

hondatu
01-02-09, 17:20
Documentatia pentru inceput e asta:

INTRODUCTION


5-door family hatchback with Honda's petrol-electric IMA system
Combines practicality and flexibility in an affordable package
Low emissions and great fuel economy based on real world driving conditions
Unique Eco Assist driver coaching system that can help any driver maximise fuel economy
Sleek, sporty and aerodynamic design influenced by FCX Clarity
Practical and spacious interior to accommodate five passengers
Flexible and class-leading load space of 408-litres
Generous value for money specification
Honda's enviable build quality and low running costs
Excellent crash protection for occupants and pedestrians
Honda first marketed the original Insight Hybrid in 1999 and has been working on the technology for almost two decades.

The motivation behind pursuing this technology is fundamental and basic, avoiding waste. In simple terms, the energy from braking on a car with a conventional drivetrain is lost by being converted into energy that disappears into the atmosphere as heat and noise. The task Honda's R&D engineers set themselves was to harness this energy to the benefit of the customer and the environment.

One decade on, Honda is launching a new Insight that takes those core principles and extends them, allowing a customer to carry their family and luggage in an efficient, flexible and affordable vehicle.


The Direction of the Honda Insight
The aim was to make petrol-electric technology available to more people by developing a family hybrid car that was more affordable.

The Insight is a 5-door hatchback with Honda's IMA hybrid system that offers low-emission, fuel efficient motoring in a practical, no-compromise offering -to make an attractive, lower cost package.

Honda expects this car to have a significant impact on the industry. Because the Insight will be more affordable to more people, it makes cleaner car technology accessible to a completely new group of car buyers - opening the hybrid market to a new section of society.

That's why the main aim in the development to reduce the size, complexity and price of components and systems to drive that final retail price down. Honda wants to bring hybrid technology to a wider market, but knows that the price, or the perceived price, of cleaner cars has prevented some car buyers from even looking at them seriously. Honda wants those people who've never considered buying a hybrid car to try one for size.

It is one thing to develop an ultra-green product, that only the affluent can afford, but in its quest to be a company that society wants to exist, Honda challenged its engineers to build a hybrid for everyone.


Making it Affordable
The Insight is the culmination of over 20 years of hybrid development and more than 35 years of lower impact petrol engine development, which started with the CVCC engine in 1972.

That experience and technical knowledge has enabled Honda to develop the components and parts in our IMA system so they can be produced at a lower cost.

Honda has also been building production hybrids for a decade. In that time, a lot has been learnt about the production of electric motors and other key parts of the hybrid system. This understanding has led to improved production equipment and techniques, which will reduce production costs. And because the major hybrid components are produced in-house, this also helps to control overall costs.

"Our engineers have shown great tenacity and skill in reducing the cost of our IMA system to allow us to reduce the build costs of the Insight. By using so many components that are manufactured in-house, we have the ability in the market to continuously refine our processes in a way an outside supplier might not." Yasunari Seki, Insight Large Project Leader

The plan to produce and sell a much larger number of hybrid cars than before leads to economies of scale, and thus a lower final cost per unit. To achieve these numbers, a new electric motor production line has been added to the Suzuka factory, in Japan, which will double its per hour production capacity for IMA motors.



There are also specific product developments that helped keep the costs down:
95 per cent of the IMA unit was redesigned to reduce both size and cost
It was a bespoke model, so any additional costs required to ‘shoe-horn' technology into an existing model (eg. Civic Hybrid) were eliminated
The platform and chassis share many components with that of the new Jazz
All the cost-saving doesn't mean cutting corners or compromising on performance or durability. Engineers have focussed on finding engineering solutions to drive costs down, developing the most efficient hybrid technology at the lowest possible cost to the customer.


The Motivation for Building an Affordable Hybrid
A key part of Honda's global philosophy is to be "a company that society wants to exist". And while that may at first sound like another piece of marketing strategy speak, it is a mantra that is followed the world over, starting with the R&D centres.

This philosophy helps explain why the marketing of a more affordable hybrid car; it's part of Honda's efforts to have a positive impact on society.

Honda could have chosen to place this cleaner technology in high-end cars; showpiece environmental machines to sell at a premium rate to a low number of customers. There's probably an argument that says there's more money per unit in that approach.

However, in line with Honda's philosophies, beliefs and heritage, the approach was to bring low emission hybrid technology to the masses by using our engineering experience to reduce the costs and therefore the retail price.

As well as introducing new sections of society to cleaner cars, this should also help increase the sales volume of hybrid cars - which will have a positive effect on overall emissions figures, and therefore the environment.


Fuel Consumption and Emissions Improvements
The fuel economy (combined) is 4.4 l/100km, while CO2 emissions are as low as 101g/km.

Honda has concentrated on developing a car that will deliver better fuel economy in the ‘real world', taking into account the actual conditions in which the car will be driven by their customers.

Honda would rather concentrate on delivering the kind of economy customers can see and experience every day, whether driving with the heater and head lights on during the winter or with the stereo pumping and the air conditioning hard at work heat of the summer. These are the real world working environments in which the Insight has been designed to excel.

Honda has produced an affordable, efficient, exceptionally frugal and low emission car but there are styles and techniques of driving that can be employed to take even greater advantage of the hybrid technology. The Eco Assist system developed for the Insight, will train drivers, helping them achieve the best possible fuel economy.

The Insight's unique driver coaching system marks a new era of motoring where manufacturers and individual drivers share responsibility for their final fuel consumption.


Target Customers
Because the Insight is designed to bring hybrid technology to a wider audience, equally Honda expects the car to appeal to a broad customer base.

The majority of customers will be new-to-hybrid, traditional C-sector customers that are looking to replace their conventional family car with a more efficient one. They may have deemed a hybrid too expensive previously, but will appreciate the Insight's roomy proportions and low running costs, as well as the outright purchase price.

For the same reason, Honda expects some existing hybrid customers and owners of more conventional, low CO2 models to move across into the Insight, making the most of the advancements in cost-reducing technologies.

Please refer to Image 01_ENVIRONMENT.JPG for Environmental awareness across the EU27.


Sales Targets
Honda aims to sell 200,000 Insights each year.

Global sales are planned at 200,000 units with North America taking 100,000 of these cars.

As CEO and President, Mr Fukui has already announced, hybrids will make up 10 per cent of Honda's total car sales by the middle of the next decade and to achieve this target, Honda will also launch a sporty hybrid (based on CR-Z) and a Jazz Hybrid over the next few years. With these four hybrid cars, Honda is targeting to sell over 500,000 hybrids globally per year.


Hatchback Practicality and Aerodynamics
"The reason we chose a 5-door hatchback was that we wanted the car to be popular in Europe," says Yasunari Seki, Large Project Leader. "American Honda - the biggest market - asked us to build a car with a boot, but we insisted on a hatchback, because to compete with other green cars and sell more in Europe, it had to be a 5-door design. Of course, aerodynamically it is also a more favourable shape."


Exterior Styling
As a low emission hybrid car, it was important for the Insight's design to express its environmental credentials. It had to look like a ‘green' car but it also had to appear dynamic and fun to drive.

Above all, the Insight had to appeal to a broad range of people globally and another important factor related to this was the body style itself. Customer research showed that 5-door body shapes were most popular, and so this layout was chosen to appeal to as many people as possible.

hondatu
01-02-09, 17:21
Continuarea:

Honda developed this programme in 2007 to introduce a product specific LCA system to investigate the volume of CO2 emissions associated with the whole life cycle of each Honda vehicle. This allows Honda to compare the environmental impact of the manufacturing stage and indeed the whole life cycle of their hybrid cars.

The findings demonstrated two things, the importance of the ‘use stage' in a car's life cycle CO2 emissions, and that there is very little difference between the CO2 emissions associated with the raw material and production stages of hybrids compared to conventional cars. (see images 02_ENVIRONMENT.JPG & 03_ENVIRONMENT.JPG). This means that the overall CO2 emissions throughout the life of a hybrid vehicle will be significantly less than those of a conventionally powered car.
Where will the Insight be built?

The Insight will be produced at Honda's Suzuka factory in Japan where a new hybrid motor production line has been added to double the motor production capacity.

When does it go on sale?
The Insight will go on sale in European Market from Spring 2009.
Thirdly, the Insight takes many styling cues from the FCX Clarity. This was deliberate to position the Insight as a recognisable, global car with green credentials as well as the aerodynamic advantages of the body shape.
CO2 Emissions During Building, Use and Disposal

As a matter of course, Honda carries out a Life Cycle Assessment (LCA) Programme for all of its vehicles which looks at the CO2 emissions at each stage of a car's life cycle, including production.

Honda_CT
01-02-09, 20:35
Cateva imagini din documentatia '06 Honda Civic Hybrid in care se prezinta sistemul IMA

1. plecarea de pe loc (punerea in miscare a masinii) = Motor termic + motor electric IMA
2. accelerare = Motor termic + motor electric IMA
3. deplasarea cu viteza constanta (max 50km/h si max. 1300 rpm) = 100% motor electic IMA
4. deplasarea cu viteze mari = 100% motor Termic
5. coborarea pantelor, decelerare sau franare (regenerare) = reincarcarea bateriilor

Honda_CT
01-02-09, 20:52
...continuare ... textul original din documentatie

Achim
01-02-09, 21:10
Cateva imagini din documentatia '06 Honda Civic Hybrid in care se prezinta sistemul IMA

1. plecarea de pe loc (punerea in miscare a masinii) = Motor termic + motor electric IMA
2. accelerare = Motor termic + motor electric IMA
3. deplasarea cu viteza constanta (max 50km/h si max. 1300 rpm) = 100% motor electic IMA
4. deplasarea cu viteze mari = 100% motor Termic
5. coborarea pantelor, decelerare sau franare (regenerare) = reincarcarea bateriilor

inteleg...
eh totusi inseamna ca eu ma refeream la altceva

punctul 1 si punctul 2 (cu mentiunea sa nu demarezi mai in forta) sa se produca ca in cazul punctului 3

Bflorinel
01-02-09, 22:23
Noua Insight,este un civic hybrid,dar cu un interior un pic diferit!

ticker
01-02-09, 22:51
Eh! Florinele... Ai dreptul la o parere dar gandeste putin inainte sa postezi!

Sunt doua masini diferite din clase diferite si vor fi fabricate in acelasi timp ambele.

L.E. as vrea sa atrag totusi atentia ca sa abate de la cultura japoneza intr-o privinta. Jantele au prindere 4 x 100 in loc de 5 x 114,3

Bflorinel
01-02-09, 23:26
http://www.autoscout24.ro/Details.aspx?id=bfcu1qlpahk3 deja e de vanzare!

tokyodream
02-02-09, 07:50
Maricel pretul, ma asteptam sa fie sub 20.000 euro !

Honda_CT
02-02-09, 10:04
Nu trebuie sa ne grabim asupra pretului de comercializare in Romania, plus ca nu stim despre ce dotare este vorba.
Ganditi-va ca noul Accord la lansare a fost mult mai scump in majoritatea Europei decat in Romania.
Inca nu s-a anuntat nimic oficial pentru tara noastra. Modelul, cel mai probabil se va lansa in mai-iunie la noi.

tokyodream
02-02-09, 13:01
Am inteles ca a fost prezentat la PROMOTOR sambata, a vazut cineva ???

Honda_CT
02-02-09, 13:10
Am inteles ca a fost prezentat la PROMOTOR sambata, a vazut cineva ???

poti vedea prezentarea de la PROMOTOR pe net:
http://www.protv.ro/emisiuni/shows/pro-motor/video/17136

tokyodream
02-02-09, 13:11
Multumesc frumos :)

hondatu
02-02-09, 17:20
BFlorinel:
parerea ta nu o comentez, dar un lucru e sigur:
Insight foloseste o platforma complet noua iar pe viitor vom vedea ce modele se vor mai folosi de ea.

KMR
02-02-09, 17:29
Am vazut eu emisiunea de la promotor si a fost prezentata frumos. Spuneau ca va fi sub 20k. Prezentarea era de la Valencia ;)

andrei_r
02-02-09, 17:41
Am vb azi cu Sebastian de la ATI si zicea ca nu stiu nimic sigur de ea, probabil prin iunie o sa apara pe la noi, si mie imi place dracia, si sunt f curios cum se misca si cat consuma (cica este simtitor mai ok decat Civic-ul Hybrid).

bertro
02-02-09, 20:12
...continuare ... textul original din documentatie

sunt un pic intrigat de chestia asta. ori or fi intr-adevar unele hibride '06 care se comporta asa (eu n-am auzit de vreuna), ori Honda or fi avut asa ceva in planul initial si au omis sa actualizeze documentatia dupa ce au mers pe o implementare diferita.

In momentul de fata (atat la masina mea cat si la toate hibridele '06->'08 cu ai caror proprietari am vorbit), exista doar 1 singura metoda de a pacali masina sa mearga full-electric (subliniez "a pacali"): folosesti acceleratia in mod normal pana atingi viteza de croaziera (sau 1-2 km peste), apoi ridici piciorul de pe acceleratie. i-VTEC inchide valvele, consumul se duce la zero, si masina incepe sa incarce bateria. In momentul ala, calci acceleratia extrem de fin, incat sa anulezi toate liniile de incarcare a bateriei si sa inceapa sa fie afisate linii de assist, avand grija sa nu apesi acc prea tare ca sa nu porneasca motorul termic. In functie de cat de usor ti-e piciorul si cate linii de assist te reusesti sa obtii, masina isi mentine viteza (sau o mareste usor) mergand doar pe electric. Poti merge asa cativa km buni daca drumul nu e in panta si nu te incurca traficul. Desigur, cu cat mergi mai mult asa, cu atat iti consumi bateria si te poti trezi cu o reincarcare fortata din partea IMA (3000 RPM la stop, etc).

La vale n-are rost sa te chinui cu trucul asta, doar calci pedala cat sa anulezi liniile de reincarcare si masina isi mentine viteza din inertie/gravitatie.

Sunt forumuri de hypermileri unde se bat astia in maestria de a pacali masina sa faca "EV glide" pe distante cat mai mari. Insa, daca ai tresarit/stranutat putin, sau ai trecut peste un mic damb care ti-a "impins" pedala in picior, porneste motorul termic si adio record :(

Achim
02-02-09, 20:17
era bun un buton de "EV" ca cel de pe Prius

Honda_CT
03-02-09, 15:54
sunt un pic intrigat de chestia asta. ori or fi intr-adevar unele hibride '06 care se comporta asa (eu n-am auzit de vreuna), ori Honda or fi avut asa ceva in planul initial si au omis sa actualizeze documentatia dupa ce au mers pe o implementare diferita.
....(

Documentatia din care am extras acele imagini era pentru modelele comercializate in Europa dupa 2006.... Ramane de vazut ce se intampla in cazul Insight-ului.

tokyodream
05-02-09, 09:12
All-New Honda Insight Hybrid Vehicle Introduced in Japan !

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/All-New-Honda-Insight-Hybrid/story.aspx?guid=%7B96EC681C%2D96EF%2D402D%2DA65E%2 D522FAD3E5BDE%7D (http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/All-New-Honda-Insight-Hybrid/story.aspx?guid=%7B96EC681C%2D96EF%2D402D%2DA65E%2 D522FAD3E5BDE%7D)

Tokyo, Feb 04, 2009 (JCN Newswire via COMTEX) --

Honda Motor Co., Ltd. announced that the all-new Insight hybrid vehicle will go on sale in Japan on Friday, February 6, 2009. A five-door, five-passenger compact hatchback starting at an affordable JPY 1,890,000[*1], the Insight features a lightweight, compact hybrid system that combines exceptional fuel economy with fun-to-drive performance.
Designed to set the standard for compact cars for a new era, the Insight combines outstanding environmental performance with fun, responsive driving and efficient, versatile packaging. The all-new Honda Insight was developed with the goal to provide these attributes in a car that is affordable to more customers.

Offering customers exceptional fuel economy, the Insight features a newly developed hybrid system including a 1.3-liter i-VTEC engine and Honda's proprietary Integrated Motor Assist (IMA). To further support fuel-efficient driving, the Insight features the Ecological Drive Assist System (Eco Assist) as standard equipment on all models.

Exceptional Environmental Performance :

- Featuring a 1.3-liter i-VTEC engine and lightweight, compact Integrated Motor Assist (IMA), the Insight hybrid system offers exceptional fuel economy: 26 km/L in JC08 mode and 30 km/L in 10 - 15 mode.[*2]
- Designed to reduce air flow resistance and enhance fuel efficiency, the aerodynamic body achieves a world-leading coefficient of drag of 0.28.[*3]
- Standard on all models, the new Ecological Drive Assist System (Eco Assist) is designed to help drivers further enhance fuel efficiency.

Efficient, Versatile Packaging :

- Packaging features a compact body, low vehicle height and a comfortable interior with superior utility.
- The rear cargo area is spacious and easy to use.
Fun, Comfortable Driving
- In the city and on the highway, the Insight offers fun, relaxed daily driving and a comfortable ride.
Affordable Pricing
- Cost reduction was achieved through enhanced efficiency of the IMA system and the use of parts shared with other Honda automobiles.
- Increased efficiency of production processes was achieved.

Key Features of the Insight

Exterior design:

- The athletic, aerodynamic exterior design reflects the responsive performance of the Insight.
- From the front, the Insight makes a strong impression with its wide, stable stance and evokes the design of Honda's flagship for environmental performance-the FCX Clarity fuel cell vehicle.
- The line traversing the middle of the body in a single motion emphasizes the low vehicle height, contributing to a sporty design.
- From the rear, the high tail adds to both the aerodynamic performance and the stylish look of the Insight.
Interior design
- With its advanced, futuristic feel, the interior design makes driving fun while offering a comfortable environment for all occupants.
- The two-tiered instrument panel is divided vertically, allowing the driver to easily access important information at a glance.
- Further emphasizing the futuristic hybrid feel, the interior features elegantly contrasting colors, textures and materials.
Powertrain (Hybrid System)
- The Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) proprietary hybrid system offers exceptional fuel economy and extremely low emissions. The gasoline engine serves as the main power source while the electric motor provides additional power as needed.
- Offering both exceptional fuel efficiency and ample torque, the 1.3-liter i-VTEC engine features Variable Cylinder Management (VCM), which controls the idling of all cylinders. Along with exceptional fuel economy, the combination of engine and motor offers the consistent responsiveness and acceleration performance one might expect from a 1.5-liter engine.
- The ultra-thin DC brushless motor is approximately 22% thinner and approximately 15% lighter than previous-generation technology.[*4]
- Adjusting to driving conditions and battery charge level, the Power Control Unit (PCU) optimally controls the power assist and electrical regeneration functions of the electric motor.
- As compared to previous-generation technology, the modules of the high-output nickel metal hydride (Ni-MH) battery feature a 30% enhancement in both output and durability, allowing for a decrease from 11 modules to 7.[*4] As a result, while providing ample output and capacity for the motor, the battery is approximately 31% more compact and approximately 35% lighter than previous-generation technology.[*4]
- Composed of the PCU and battery, the Intelligent Power Unit (IPU) is approximately 19% more compact and approximately 28% lighter than previous-generation technology,[*4] allowing for placement of the IPU beneath the rear cargo area and more-efficient packaging overall.
- The compact, efficient, Honda Multimatic S continuously variable transmission (CVT) helps the Honda hybrid system produce even more torque and achieve even higher fuel efficiency. In off-the-line acceleration, the CVT engages at lower rpms, enhancing acceleration performance and fuel-efficiency at the same time.
- In braking, accelerating and cruising, the Insight optimizes the combination of engine valve operation and motor assist for precise energy management. As a result, the Insight offers both high fuel economy and fun driving in a wide variety of driving conditions. To further enhance fuel efficiency, the Insight can cruise on motor power alone at low speeds and features idle stop capability.

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tokyodream
05-02-09, 09:12
Advanced Environmental Technologies :

- To help Insight owners realize the full benefits of Honda hybrid technology, the new Ecological Drive Assist System (Eco Assist) is included as standard equipment on all models. Eco Assist combines multiple functions:

ECON mode:

With the touch of a button, this function adjusts engine output, extends the duration of idle stop, increases regenerative recharging during deceleration and achieves energy-saving control of the air-conditioning unit. As a result, more fuel-efficient driving can be achieved.

Guidance function:

This function assesses acceleration and braking practices in real time, changing the speedometer background color to indicate the level of fuel-efficiency of the driving style. Drivers can achieve more fuel-efficient driving simply by referring to this intuitive color display.

Scoring function:

Located in the center of the instrument panel, the Multi-Information Display provides a scoring function, in which the number of 'leaves' displayed indicates the level of fuel-efficient driving performance. When the ignition is turned off, both a score for the latest driving cycle (startup to shutdown) and a score for cumulative lifetime performance are displayed. Since 'leaves' appear and 'grow' as driving practices become more fuel efficient, the scoring function encourages drivers to take interest in fuel efficiency and develop more fuel-efficient driving habits over the long term. With the available Honda HDD InterNavi System, a driver can access a full history of personal scoring function results and additional detailed scoring statistics. InterNavi customers may also access via the Internet a detailed fuel-efficiency assessment of their driving practices, a history of their fuel-efficiency scores, their ranking among subscribers throughout Japan and other information relevant to fuel-efficient driving.

Environmental Performance :

- The Insight boasts exceptional fuel economy of 26 km/L in JC08 mode and 30 km/L in 10-15 mode.[*2]
- All models are certified by Japan's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism as complying with the 2005 -75% emissions standard.
- All models are certified by Japan's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism as complying with the 2010 +25% fuel economy standard.
- All models comply with the 2015 fuel economy standard of Japan's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism.[*5]
Packaging
- The Insight features a compact body with low overall height. At the same time, the packaging provides a spacious interior with a high level of utility.
- The generous wheelbase of 2,550 mm and tandem distance of 790 mm provide a comfortable space for five adults.
- The placement of the compact battery and PCU under the rear cargo area allows for up to 400L of cargo space.[*6]
Chassis
- The MacPherson strut front suspension and torsion beam rear suspension offer responsive handling and a comfortable ride.
- For the first time in a Honda hybrid automobile, the Insight LS is equipped with paddle shifters that allow the driver to enjoy sporty shifting and a manual transmission feel without taking hands off the steering wheel.
Body
- The lightweight, aerodynamic body is compact with a low overall height.
- Thanks to the aerodynamic design and meticulous wind tunnel testing of all exterior parts as well as specially designed aerodynamic underbody parts, the Insight boasts a world-leading coefficient of drag (0.28*3) and outstanding overall aerodynamic performance.
- Unique to the Insight and designed to accommodate the IPU beneath the rear cargo area, the body features high rigidity in the rear frame and floor, contributing to safety and vehicle stability during cruising.
- With a 52% high-tensile steel content,[*7] the frame is highly lightweight and rigid.
- A first for a Honda compact automobile, the windshield features reduced-infrared radiation blocking and sound-insulating functions. The cabin stays cooler in warm ambient temperatures, reducing the need for air-conditioning and enhancing energy efficiency.

Enhanced Efficiency and Reduced Costs :

- Honda has made each component of the hybrid system more compact and lightweight while combining functions where possible. In particular, the battery container contains 50% fewer parts than previous-generation technology.[*4] As a result of these initiatives, Honda has achieved a dramatic reduction in overall hybrid system cost.
- In designing the Insight, Honda has carefully differentiated between parts that requiring a new design and parts also implemented in other vehicles. By concentrating resources on newly designed parts while implementing parts shared with other vehicles and rationalizing parts design, Honda has optimized affordability enhancing the value offered the customer.
- Honda has dedicated a new assembly line at its Suzuka Factory in Japan to the production of Insight IMA motors, significantly enhancing production efficiency, establishing a strong foundation for large-scale production and substantially reducing costs.

Safety Performance :

- The Advanced Compatibility Engineering (ACE) body structure enhances self-protection as well as mitigating damage to other vehicles in the event of a collision.
- Pedestrian-injury mitigation technology helps protect pedestrians from head, leg and other injuries in the event of a collision.
- Along with the front seat i-side airbag system, the side curtain airbag system helps reduce the risk of head injury in a side impact.
- Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA), which assists the driver in maintaining control during cornering, is standard equipment on the LS-type and available as a factory option on the G-type and L-type.
- Standard equipment on all models, the Active Head Restraint System in the front seats enhances neck and head protection in the event of a rear impact collision.
*The name Insight was chosen to denote that this new vehicle provides "insight" into a new era in which hybrid vehicles come within reach of most car buyers.

[*1] Manufacturer's suggested retail price including consumption tax for the G-type
[*2] G-type and L-type
[*3] Five-passenger production automobiles (Honda calculations)
[*4] As compared to the 2006 Civic Hybrid
[*5] A new fuel economy standard established under the Law Concerning the Rational Use of Energy.
[*6] Honda calculations, VDA method
[*7] By-weight comparison

About HondaHonda Motor Co., Ltd. (TSE:7267/NYSE:HMC/LSE:HNDA.L) is one of the leading manufacturers of automobiles and power products and the largest manufacture of motorcycles in the world. Honda has always sought to provide genuine satisfaction to people worldwide. The result is more than 120 manufacturing facilities in 30 countries worldwide, producing a wide range of products, including motorcycles, ATVs, generators, marine engines, lawn and garden equipment and automobiles that bring the company into contact with over 19 million customers annually. For more information, please visit http://world.honda.com (http://world.honda.com/) .

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hondatu
05-02-09, 21:16
Am avut doua pariuri pe rol referitoare la codul VIN cum ca va fi ZE, ducandu-se practic mai departe ce se incepuse cu prima generatie INSIGHT:

http://www.honda.co.jp/INSIGHT/grade-data/index.html (http://www.honda.co.jp/INSIGHT/grade-data/index.html)

Am doua lazi de bere.....:yepp:

Pariurile cu greutatea sa insa le-am pierdut, fiindca am mizat de 1.400km cand colo ce vedem? 1.200kg.
Cred ca trebuia sa fiu mai inspirat si sa ma uit mai intai la PRIUS.
Am pierdut doua lazi de bere........:rant:

Honda_CT
05-02-09, 21:18
Sursa documentului de il veti gasii este de pe site-ul www.hondanew.eu

INTRODUCERE


O maşină de familie, in 5 usi; un hatchback echipat cu sistemul hibrid Honda IMA
Utilitate si flexibilitate intr-un pachet accesibil
Emisii şi consum de combustibil reduse, bazate pe condiţiile reale de şofat
Sistem unic Eco Assist ce ajuta orice conducator auto sa maximizeze economia de combustibil
Design atrăgător, sportiv şi aerodinamic influentat de FCX Clarity
Interior practic şi spaţios pentru a primi cinci pasageri
Spatiu flexibil si un spaţiu de încărcare foarte mare, 408 litri
Calitate de invidiat Honda şi costuri de exploatare reduse
Protecţie excelenta la impact pentru pasageri şi pietoni

Honda a comercializat, pentru prima oara, modelul Insight Hybrid in anul 1999 si, timp de doua decenii, a studiat tehnologia ce va echipa vehiculul.

Motivaţia pentru studierea acestei tehnologii este fundamentala şi de baza, studiata pentru a evita irosirea materiilor prime. Pe scurt, energia consumata la frânarea vehiculului cu tren de rulare convenţional este pierduta prin transformarea sa in energie ce dispare in atmosfera sub forma de căldura şi zgomot. Obiectivul stabilit de inginerii Honda R&D era acela de a foloseasi aceasta energie in beneficiul clientului şi al mediului înconjurător.

După o decada, Honda lansează noul Insight ce are la baza aceleasi principii centrale şi le extinde, permiţând clientului sa îşi transporte familia şi bagajele cu un vehicul eficient, flexibil şi accesibil.

Direcţia modelului Honda Insight
Scopul este ca tehnologia hibrida sa fie disponibila unui număr din ce in ce mai mare de persoane, prin crearea unui vehicul hibrid, accesibil, de familie.

Modelul Insight este un hatchback in 5 uşi cu sistem hibrid IMA, ce oferă emisii şi consum de combustibil reduse intr-un pachet atractiv si la un pret scazut.

Honda se aşteaptă ca acest vehicul sa aibă un impact semnificativ in industrie. Deoarece modelul Insight va fi accesibil unui număr mare de persoane, oferă o tehnologie mai putin poluanta unui grup complet nou de clienţi - astfel, deschizând piaţa hibridelor si unei alte parti a societatii.

Iată de ce principalul obiectiv al procesului de dezvoltare este reducerea dimensiunii, complexităţii şi a preţului componentelor şi sistemelor pentru ca preţul de vanzare sa fie unul scăzut. Honda doreşte sa aducă tehnologia hibrida pe o piaţa larga, dar ştie ca preţul, sau preţul perceput, al vehiculelor ecologice i-a împiedicat pe unii clienţi sa le privească in mod serios. Honda doreşte ca acele persoane care nu s-au gândit vreodată sa cumpere un vehicul hibrid sa poată încerca acum unul.

Una este să creezi un produs „ultra-verde", pe care doar persoanele cu venituri mari şi-l pot permite, dar în dorinta de a fi o companie dorită de societate, Honda şi-a provocat inginerii să construiască un hibrid accesibil tuturor.

Accesibilitate
Modelul Insight reprezintă punctul culminant al unei perioade de 20 de ani de dezvoltare in domeniul hibridelor şi a peste 35 de ani de impact in dezvoltarea motoarelor cu emisii scazute, ce a început cu motorul CVCC in 1972.

Acea experienţă şi cunoştinţele tehnice i-au permis companiei Honda sa dezvolte componentele şi piesele sistemului IMA astfel încât sa fie produs la costuri mici.

De asemenea, timp de un deceniu, Honda a construit autovehicule hibride. In acea perioada, s-au invatat multe lucruri despre producerea motoarelor electrice şi a altor piese cheie ale sistemului hibrid. Acest lucru a dus la îmbunătăţirea echipamentului şi tehnicilor, ceea ce a dus la reducerea costurilor de producţie. Faptul ca principalele componente hibride sunt produse in regim propriu, ajuta la controlul şi la reducerea costurilor generale.

"Inginerii noştri au demonstrat tenacitate şi abilitate in reducerea costurilor sistemului IMA, ceea ce ne permite diminuarea costurilor de producţie pentru modelul Insight. Utilizând atât de multe componente ce sunt fabricate in regim propriu, avem posibilitatea, in piaţa, de a ne îmbunătăţi in permanenta procesele intr-o maniera ce nu este accesibila furnizorilor externi." Yasunari Seki, Insight Large Project Leader

Planul de a produce şi de a vinde un număr şi mai mare de unităţi implica economii şi implicit un cost mai mic per unitate. Pentru a putea atinge aceste cifre, fabricii Suzuka din Japonia i s-a adăugat o linie de producţie motoare, linie ce va dubla capacitatea orara de producţie a motoarelor IMA.

Iată câteva din elementele ce au ajutat la reducerea costurilor:

95% din unităţile IMA au fost reproiectate pentru a reduce atât dimensiunile cat şi costurile
Fiind vorba de un model cu o destinatie foarte precisa, s-a incercat ca transformarile la nivelul tehnologiei deja existente ( sistemul de pe Civic Hybrid) sa fie minime astfel încât sa nu mai existe costuri suplimentare
Platforma şi şasiul au multe componente comune cu modelul Jazz.


Reducerea costurilor nu înseamnă compromisuri in ceea ce priveşte performantele sau rezistenta. Inginerii s-au axat pe descoperirea soluţiilor pentru a reduce costurile, dezvoltând cea mai eficienta tehnologie hibrid cu cele mai mici costuri pentru client.

Motivare pentru a construi un hibrid accesibil
Un element important al filozofiei Honda, este sa fie „o companie dorita de societate". La prima vedere, aceasta poate părea doar o alta strategie de marketing, dar este un principiu ce a fost respectat (începând cu centrele R&RD).

Aceasta filozofie explica dorinta Honda de a avea un model hibrid cat mai accesibil si cu un impact pozitiv in societate.

Honda ar fi putut sa decida folosirea acestei tehnologii la vehiculele din segmentele superioare;, insa nu ar fi fost decat un produs cu un pret mare destinat unui numar redus de cumparatori. Probabil exista un argument conform căruia in aceasta abordare existau mai mulţi bani pe unitate.

Totuşi, conform filozofiei, convingerilor şi moştenirii Honda, planul era reprezentat de aducerea tehnologiei hibrid cu emisii reduse către cat mai multi utilizatori prin folosirea experienţei inginerilor pentru a reduce costurile si, prin urmare, preţul de vanzare.

Pe lângă faptul ca noi segmente ale societăţii fac cunoştintă cu vehicule mai putin poluante, acest lucru va ajuta creşterea volumului de vânzări ale vehiculelor hibride - ceea ce va avea un efect pozitiv asupra valorii emisiilor de noxe şi prin urmare asupra mediului înconjurător.

Îmbunătăţirea consumului de combustibil şi a emisiilor de noxe
Consumul de combustibil (combinat) este de 4.4 l/100km, in timp ce emisiile de CO2 ajung la nivelul de 101 g/km.

Honda si-a concentrat forţele pentru a dezvolta un vehicul care sa ofere un consum redus de combustibil in „viata reala", ţinând cont de condiţiile reale in care vehiculul este condus.

Honda preferă să se concentreze şi sa ofere un consum de combustibil pe care clienţii sa îl experimenteze in viata de zi cu zi, indiferent daca funcţionează sistemul de încălzire pe timpul iernii sau daca funcţionează sistemul de aer condiţionat pe timpul verii. Acestea sunt condiţiile reale de drum pentru care a fost proiectat modelul Insight.

Honda a produs un vehicul accesibil, eficient, extraordinar de econom şi cu nivel redus de emisii, dar exista stiluri şi tehnici de a conduce ce pot fi folosite pentru a beneficia la maxim de avantajul tehnologiei hibride. Sistemul Eco Assist proiectat pentru Insight ajuta la obţinerea performantelor extraordinare.

Sistemul unic de asistare a şoferului deschide o noua era a automobilismului, era in care producătorii şi clienţii au aceeaşi responsabilitate in ceea ce priveşte consumul final de combustibil.

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Honda_CT
05-02-09, 21:30
Clienţi tintă
Deoarece modelul Insight este proiectat pentru a face cunoscuta tehnologia hibridelor in rândul unui numar mare de clienţi, Honda se aşteaptă ca vehiculul sa aibă succes pe piata de autovehicule.

Majoritatea clienţilor sunt clienţii segmentului C ce doresc sa înlocuiască vehiculul obişnuit de familie cu unul mult mai eficient. Înainte, aceştia considerau ca vehiculele hibride sunt prea costisitoare, dar vor aprecia spaţiul şi costurile reduse de funcţionare, precum şi preţul excelent.

Din acelaşi motiv, Honda se aşteaptă ca o parte din clienţii pasionaţi de tehnologia hibrida şi proprietarii unor modele convenţionale sa treacă la modelul Insight, alegând astfel o tehnologie de reducere a costurilor.

Vanzari
La nivel global Honda doreşte sa vanda 200.000 unitati in fiecare an, dintre care 100.000 doar pe piata americana.

In calitatea sa de CEO şi Preşedinte, Dl. Fukui a anunţat deja ca vehiculele hibridele vor reprezenta 10% din cifra totala de vânzări Honda la jumătatea următoarei decade; pentru a atinge acest obiectiv, Honda va lansa un hibrid sport (având la baza CR-Z) şi un model Jazz Hybrid in următorii ani. Cu aceste patru modele hibride, Honda doreste sa vanda, anual, peste 500.000 vehicule hibride la nivel global.

Utilitate şi aerodinamica de hatchback
„Motivul pentru care am ales un hatchback in 5 uşi este faptul ca am dorit ca vehiculul sa fie popular in Europa" afirmă Yasunari Seki, Large Project Leader pentru Insight. „Piaţa americana - cea mai mare piaţa - ne-a cerut sa construim o maşină cu portbagaj, dar noi am insistat asupra unui hatchback deoarece pentru a putea concura cu alte maşini „verzi" şi pentru a vinde mai mult in Europa, trebuia sa fie o masina in 5 uşi. Si din punctul de vedere al formei acesta are un aspect mult mai aerodinamic."

Design exterior
Este foarte important pentru un vehicul hibrid cu un nivel redus de emisii, ca designul exterior să exprime încredere. Trebuia să arate ca o maşină „verde", dar să fie dinamică şi plăcută în momentul conducerii.

Mai mult decât orice, modelul Insight trebuia să fie considerat atrăgător de o gamă largă de persoane la nivel mondial; un factor la fel de important era considerat stilul caroseriei. Studiile efectuate în cadrul clienţilor au demonstrat că cea mai apreciată este caroseria în 5 uşi; aşadar acest model a fost ales deoarece a înregistrat cele mai multe voturi.

În al treilea rând, modelul Insight împrumută linii de stil de la modelul FCX Clarity. S-a ales această soluţie pentru a putea poziţiona modelul Insight ca pe un model ce dispune de recunoaştere la nivel mondial, avantaje de aerodinamicitate şi încredere într-un vehicul „verde".

Nivel redus de emisii CO2 în timpul construirii, utilizării şi reciclării
Honda a dezvoltat programul Life Cycle Assessment (LCA) pentru toate vehiculele produse, program ce vizează emisiile CO2 în fiecare stadiu al utilizării inclusiv în timpul producţiei.

Honda a dezvoltat acest program în 2007 pentru a introduce un sistem LCA specific produselor pentru a investiga volumul de CO2 asociat întregului ciclu de viaţă al fiecărui vehicul Honda. Acest sistem permite ca Honda să compare impactul avut asupra mediului înconjurător de procesul de producţie şi de întregul ciclu de funcţionare al vehiculelor hibride.

Rezultatele au evidenţiat importanţa emisiilor CO2 a „stadiului de utilizare" în perioada de utilizare a vehiculului şi faptul că este o diferenţă foarte mică între nivelul emisiilor de CO2 asociate cu materialele brute şi stadiile de producţie ale vehiculelor hibride şi nivelul vehiculelor convenţionale. (02_ENVIRONMENT.JPG & 03_ENVIRONMENT.JPG). Acest lucru înseamnă că nivelul general al emisiilor de CO2 pe întreaga perioadă de funcţionare a unui vehicul hibrid va fi semnificativ mai mică decât cel al vehiculelor convenţionale.

Unde va fi construit modelul Insight?
Modelul Insight va fi produs la fabrica Suzuka din Japonia, unde a fost adăugată o nouă linie de producţie motoare pentru a dubla capacitatea de producţie.

Când va fi comercializat?
Modelul Insight va fi comercializat începând din primava/vara anului 2009.

Moştenirea Honda în domeniu „verde"
1972
Este dezvoltat motorul CVCC - primul motor pe benzină, la nivel internaţional, cu nivel redus de emisii ce respectă normele stricte ale UE privind nivelul poluării.

1986
Modelul CR-X coupe devine primul vehicul în patru cilindrii, producţie de serie, ce a depăşit limita de 5.6l/100km (50mpg).

1993
Honda câştigă prestigiosul World Solar Challange cu Type Dream, alimentat solar. A fost construit un nou model Type Dream, îmbunătăţit, pentru competiţia din anul 2006 şi a câştigat din nou.

1997
Honda începe comercializarea vehiculului electric EV Plus - ce putea transporta patru adulţi, pe o distanţă de aproape 140 mile cu o singură încărcare - în Statele Unite şi în Japonia, şi a vândut peste 200 unităţi până în anul 2000.

1997
Honda dezvăluie Civic GX, ce funcţionează pe gaze naturale şi este disponibil în America. Devine, la nivel mondial, cel mai curat vehicul cu combustie internă din acea era.

1999
Honda lansează Insight - un vehicul hibrid pe benzină şi electric cu un consum de 3.4 l/100km (83mpg) în ciclu combinat, cu emisii de doar 80g/km de CO2.

1999
Honda dezvăluie prima versiune a revoluţionarului model FCX cu emisii zero cu alimentare cu celule de combustibil.

2003
este lansat modelul Civic IMA hibrid cu emisii CO2 de 116g/km.

2006
este începută comercializarea modelului Noul Civic Hybrid, cu un consum de 4.6 l/100km (61.4mpg) (combinat) şi emisii de 109g/km.

2006
Honda a început producţia şi vânzarea modelelor Civic şi Fit FFV, capabile să funcţioneze 100% în mod biologic cu un derivat din combustibil de bioetanol.

2007
Conceptul sport hibrid cu greutate redusă, denumit CR-Z, este lansat la Salonul Auto de la Tokyo, iar o versiune este confirmată pentru producţie.

2008
Modelul Honda FCX Clarity, alimentat cu celule de combustibil, este produs în Japonia, şi leasingul acestor vehicule cu emisii zero începe în SUA.

2009
Revigorarea numelui Honda Insight, un vehicul hibrid mai accesibil ce va fi comercializat în Europa începând din primăvară - tehnologia ecologica este acum accesibilă unui număr mai mare de persoane.

Alte iniţiative verzi

În 1956, fondatorul Soichiro Honda a spus: „După ce materialele sunt aduse în fabrică, nu trebuie să se lucreze decât la crearea produselor." Rezultatul va fi reprezentat de deşeuri zero ca urmare a procesului de producţie până în anul 2010. Aproape toate fabricile Honda, incluzându-le pe cele din Japonia şi Marea Britanie, au atins acest obiectiv.
Începând cu anul 1976 Honda a plantat aproape o jumătate de milion de copaci în jurul fabricilor, absorbind peste 4.000 tone CO2 şi producând peste 3.000 tone oxigen.
În 1989 Honda a introdus vopseaua pe bază de apă, ce nu pare a fi un lucru important, dar atunci când se foloseşte atât de multă vopsea, detaliile contează. Din fericire, această iniţiativă a fost adoptată şi de ceilalţi constructori.
Lecţiile învăţate de la modelul Honda Solar Car, model ce a depăşit toate recordurile, au fost folosite cu succes şi Honda a început dezvoltarea panourilor solare, extrem de eficiente, pentru case şi fabrici.
Paisprezece fabrici, incluzând-o pe cea de la Suzuka unde se construiesc modelele Jazz şi Insight, au fost echipate cu ultima generaţie de panouri solare, ce produc electricitate cu zero emisii CO2.
Honda nu produce doar motoare ecologice;Honda produce motoare ecologice printr-un proces ecologic. Mai mult, Honda face lucrul acesta de foarte mult timp. Spre exemplu:
- Un sistem co-generator instalat la fabrica Kumamoto în iulie 2006 a completat procesul de instalare din toate fabricile Honda din Japonia. Acest sistem furnizează electricitate, în timp ce sistemul de evacuare gaze produce abur şi apă fierbinte utilizată în timpul procesului de vopsire din fabrica Kumamoto. Rezultatul se traduce prin reducerea a aproximativ 1.039 tone emisii CO2 doar în anul 2007.
- În Guangzhou, fabrica Zengcheng, ce a început producţia în septembrie 2006, dispune de o caracteristică în premieră la nivel mondial: reciclarea în procent de 100% a apei. Atingând un nivel zero al pierderilor de apă, fabrica a salvat până în acest moment circa 170.000 tone de apă.


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Shobo
05-02-09, 21:35
In momentul de fata dintre Insight si Prius III as alege Prius. Parca e putin mai bine dotat, e mai puternic, mai eficient, plus ca mi se pare foarte interesanta si utila ideea cu panourile solare. Partea proasta la Prius este insa pretul, mult prea mare pentru o compacta, si interiorul (mi se pare al naibii de urat). Astept cu nerabdare ziua in care Honda va scoate o hibrida pe masura Priusului :P Toate cele bune!

Honda_CT
05-02-09, 21:48
Alte iniţiative verzi ...continuare...

Honda a dezvoltat Home Energy Station ca o potenţială soluţie pentru problema infrastructurii de hidrogen. Versiunea actuală funcţionează pe gaze naturale, iar acum este testată o versiune ce funcţionează pe energie solară. Unităţile nu doar că alimentează FCX Clarity, dar încălzesc şi alimentează locuinţele şi returnează orice surplus de energie.
Modelul FCX Clarity alimentat cu celule de combustibil este primul vehicul cu emisii zero, producţie de serie. În prezent, este disponibil în leasing în Statele Unite şi Japonia şi evacuează doar apă ca emisii.
Honda a iniţiat un proiect pentru a curăţa plajele pentru a ajuta la reducerea poluării pe anumite ţărmuri.
Luând în considerare potenţialele lipsuri ce vor apărea în viitor, Honda a ales orezul ca subiect pentru cercetare acum şase ani. Din acel moment s-a situat pe prima poziţie în identificarea genelor ce sporesc în mod semnificativ producţia de orez. O genă numită Gn1 ajută la mărirea numărului de grâne, în timp ce o altă genă, sd1, poate fi izolată pentru a reduce înălţimea plantelor pentru a nu se mai rupe şi deteriora. Orezul Koshihikari crescut cu aceste gene înregistrează o creştere de 23% a producţiei. Între timp, au descoperit o genă ce îmbunătăţeşte semnificativ abilitatea de regenerare a orezului; astfel este mult mai uşoară creşterea unor varietăţi care să depăşească Koshihikari.
Pentru a înfrunta despădurirea rapidă în China, Honda susţine Asociaţia Desert Planting Volunteer în iniţiativa sa „Joyful Forest" ce are ca obiectiv creşterea pădurilor în deşert.
Începând cu anul 2003, Honda a ajutat poporul brazilian să conducă propriile iniţiative în domeniul educaţiei privind mediul înconjurător. Proiectele includ curăţarea râurilor şi ateliere pentru reutilizarea sticlelor PET şi a ziarelor.


Dl. Fukui
Pionier în domeniul tehnologiei verzi
"Când eram student, în anii '60, lucram la teza mea - o analiză a emisiilor de dioxid de azot. Am considerat problema emisiilor ca fiind o temă importantă - a fost probabil primul studiu al NO2 din Japonia.

Recunosc că unul din motivele pentru care am efectuat acest studiu a fost faptul că am vrut să mă alătur echipei Honda. Honda era faimoasă pentru acţiunile competitive şi acest lucru m-a atras. În 1969, m-am alăturat echipei Honda în acelaşi an în care Soichiro Honda s-a retras din lumea sporturilor cu motor pentru a îşi canaliza energia pe provocările pentru un aer mai curat.

Când m-am alăturat companiei m-am angajat într-o cursă pentru a dezvolta tehnologia ce poate îmbunătăţi calitatea aerului pe care îl respirăm. Primul meu proiect a fost cercetarea emisiilor pentru un sistem cu catalizator şi am încercat un nou concept ce nu a mai fost folosit vreodată. Din păcate, nu a funcţionat iar gazele de evacuare erau mai toxice, şi sub îndrumarea domnului Honda, care conducea încă R&D, am mai făcut câteva încercări.

Îmi aduc aminte că domnul Honda a început să ţipe la mine. Îşi dorea foarte tare să avem succes în această provocare şi după ce am eşuat din nou, a spus: „Nu te gândi doar la sistem, gândeşte-te la sistemul de evacuare ca la un catalizator. Gândeşte-te cum să faci un motor curat de la început".

Din acel moment, eu şi echipa am început să dezvoltăm un motor care să producă mai puţine noxe fără catalizator.

După ce am vândut vehicule timp de câţiva ani, în noiembrie 1974 am vizitat Statele Unite ale Americii pentru un test de certificare la un laborator al guvernului. În cadrul acestui test, spre neîncrederea tuturor, modelul Civic a devenit primul vehicul ce a trecut noile standarde ale U.S: Clean Air Act bazate doar pe performanţele motorului.

Mai mult, inspectorul guvernamental m-a felicitat pentru atingerea unei poziţii de top în industrie în ceea ce priveşte economia de combustibil, ceea ce pentru noi a fost o surpriză deoarece nu ne-am gândit niciodată la economia de combustibil."

De la recunoaşterea în Statele Unite, Honda a continuat să lucreze la tehnologii ce vor face maşini mai putin poluante şi mai eficiente. Acum, după 35 de ani, Honda poate să scoată pe piaţă cel mai accesibil hibrid din toate timpurile."


Takeo Fukui, Presedinte si CEO, Honda Motor Company
Preţuri şi accesibilitate
Cercetările Honda au demonstrat că majoritatea conducatorilor auto cred că vehiculele hibride sunt foarte scumpe, acesta fiind lucrul care îi împiedică să aleagă motoarele cu tehnologie mai putin poluantă.

În cel mai recent studiu pe piaţă, din persoanele care nu iau în considerare un vehicul hibrid, 40% au spus că preţul este principalul motiv al acestei amânări.

Studiile Honda, şi cele ale celorlalţi producători, au demonstrat că exista foarte multe persoane preocupate de mediul inconjurator, insa atunci cand este vorba despre achizitionarea unui automobil pretul este un factor determinant.

„Trei sferturi ar cumpăra un vehicul cu emisii reduse dacă acest lucru înseamnă costuri reduse ... Şase din zece persoane spun că elementul cel mai important în achiziţionarea vehiculului este reprezentat de costurile de funcţionare." BMW Report, Driving Change, October 2008

Pentru majoritatea conducatorilior auto, vehiculele hibride au fost considerate o alternativă scumpă modelelor pe benzină şi diesel, un simbol eficient, un mijloc curat de transport.

Noul Insight este proiectat pentru a combate aceste percepţii, şi va face astfel încât tehnologia hibridă să fie accesibilă multor persoane, inclusiv unei clase noi de clienţi ce nu au luat niciodată în considerare un vehicul hibrid.

Reducerea costurilor
Înfruntând o criza la nivel mondial, se aşteaptă ca tendinţa de reducere să continue, oamenii schimbând vehiculele mari cu unele mai mici şi mai eficiente.

Un sondaj pe un site auto a demonstrat că două treimi din clienţi vor opta pentru o maşină „verde" la următoarea achiziţie. Totuşi, majoritatea a spus că motivul principal este economisirea banilor şi nu neapărat necesitatea unei maşini „verzi".

Pentru toţi aceşti clienţi, Insight oferă ce este mai bun - un vehicul practic, de familie ce respectă mediul înconjurător şi o multitudine de beneficii financiare inclusiv un preţ de achiziţie mai scăzut.

Reducerea costurilor de exploatare
În plus faţă de costurile iniţiale reduse, modelul Insight reduce costurile de exploatare inclusiv a stresului taxelor şi oferă posibilitatea de a face mai puţine drumuri la benzinărie.

Beneficii oferite pentru masini hibride sau cu emisii reduse
Romania: Taxa de inmatriculare 0

Irlanda:
CO2 pe grupe . . . . CO2 g/km . . . . Taxa de inmatriculare

A . . . . . . . . . . 0-120g . . . . . . . . 14%
B . . . . . . . . . .121-140g . . . . . . . 16%
C . . . . . . . . . .141-155g . . . . . . . 20%
D . . . . . . . . . .156-170g . . . . . . . 24%
E . . . . . . . . . .171-190g . . . . . . . 28%
F . . . . . . . . . .191-225g . . . . . . . 32%
G . . . . . . . . . . 226g+. . . . . . . . . 36%
In plus, masinile hibride au reducere din taxa de inmatriculare de 2500 de Euro. Taxa anuala de drum are valoarea cea mai scazuta de 104€ /an.

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Honda_CT
05-02-09, 21:56
Beneficii oferite pentru masini hibride sau cu emisii reduse ... continuare ...
Franta: 2000 € reducere din pretul de achizitie de la dealer pentru persoanele fizice si 700€ pentru cele juridice

Portugalia: reducere de 50% din taxa de vanzare

Olanda: Pana la 6400€ reducere din pretul de achizitie ( in functie de consumul de combustibil. CO2 (P<110/D<95g/km): 50% discount din taxa de drum

Luxembourg: CO2<120g/km: €750 bonus taxa

Norvegia: Pentru taxa de vanzare:

Nu exista taxe pentru Kw motorului electric
-25% din greutatea masinii, inainte de a calcula taxa pentru greutate (incluzand si setul de baterii)

[...]

DESIGN EXTERIOR
Deşi echipa de design a început cu o pagină albă de hârtie - acesta era un model nou fără istorie - au înfruntat multe provocări pentru a crea aspectul exterior al modelului Insight.

Pe de o parte, fiind un vehicul hibrid cu emisii reduse, trebuia să exprime încredere în modul în care protejează mediul înconjurător - trebuia să arate ca un vehicul „verde" - dar, pe de altă parte trebuia să fie dinamic şi plăcut; acestea sunt unele din principiile cheie ale proiectării Honda. Mai mult, pe lângă poziţionarea Insight, designul trebuia să influenţeze o gamă largă de persoane.

„Am dorit ca vehiculul să fie acceptat la nivel larg" afirmă Motoaki Minowa, Creative Chief Designer. „Dacă am fi creat doar un vehicul ce respectă mediul înconjurător ar fi fost plictisitor. Am dorit să introducem factorul sportiv pentru ca vehiculul să fie mai atrăgător - şi, la urma urmelor, sportivitatea face parte din ADN-ul Honda."

În timp ce partea ecologică a vehiculului a influenţat direcţia sportivă a designului general, în unele zone a ajutat şi dinamicitatea. Deoarece noul sistem IMA este mai compact, partea frontală a vehiculului poate fi mai scurtă, creând un aspect mai agresiv.

Un alt factor important ce a determinat (şi într-o oarecare măsură a restricţionat) designul exterior a fost caroseria. Pentru a fi atrăgător unui cât mai mare număr posibil de persoane, a fost ales un design în 5 uşi, creând noi provocări, mai ales în ceea ce priveşte optimizarea aerodinamicii vehiculului, creând mai mult spaţiu pentru pasagerii posteriori (vezi Aero Athlete, p 15).

„Motivul pentru care am ales un hatchback in 5 uşi este faptul ca am dorit ca vehiculul sa fie popular in Europa" afirmă Yasunari Seki, Large Project Leader. „Piaţa americană - cea mai mare piaţă - ne-a cerut sa construim o maşină cu portbagaj, dar noi am insistat asupra unui hatchback deoarece pentru a putea concura cu alte maşini „verzi" şi pentru a vinde mai mult in Europa, trebuia sa fie o maşină in 5 uşi. Desigur, din punct de vedere aerodinamic acesta are o forma aproapiata de standardele dorite."

Singura directie in care nu s-a tinut cont de buget a fost designul, deşi pentru restul proiectului s-a dorit reducerea costurilor. Echipa de dezvoltare a cheltuit bani pentru a ajunge la forma corectă a vehiculului. Adăugarea celui de-al treilea geam, spre exemplu, a fost costisitoare, dar a fost esenţială pentru a crea un aspect aerodinamic. „Vehiculului trebuia să aibă stil pentru ca proprietarul să fie mândru," afirmă Dl. Minowa.

Multe persoane au observat asemănarea designului Insight cu cel al modelului FCX Clarity. Pe lângă avantajele aerodinamice ale acestei forme, domnul Minowa declară că există un motiv bine definit pentru alegerea designului modelului FCX Clarity.

„Intenţionat am creat Insight după modelul Clarity," „Există anumite caracteristici de design şi culori pe care le-am împrumutat de la FCX, dar fundamental forma vehiculelor este similară. FCX Clarity este liderul, cel mai avansat vehicul, cea mai „curată" maşină - şi dorim ca modelul Insight să îi calce pe urme. Într-un fel, deoarece noul Insight împrumută trăsături de la modelul vechi şi de la FCX, putem declara că acest model reprezintă o punte între trecut şi viitor."

Lumini
Insight adoptă un design al farurilor, stil proiector, cu patru incinte. Luminile de întâlnire au nuanţă albastră iar semnalizatoarele sunt localizate în partea de jos a barei de protecţie.

În partea din spate, modelul Insight foloseşte LED-uri pentru grupul optic posterior. LED-urile consumă mai puţină putere, ceea ce ajută la economisirea combustibilului. Dar în loc să înlocuiască pur şi simplu LED-urile, designerii au încercat să „răspândească lumina" cu ajutorul unui design al grupului optic posterior ce reflectă lumina.

Au fost multe idei şi multi factori ce au afectat designul exterior, insa aerodinamica a fost aspectul ce a contat cel mai mult la construirea modelului Insight.

Dacă s-ar fi creat un vehicul cât mai alunecos posibil, s-ar fi deteriorat frugalitatea tehnologiei hibride la bord, crescând astfel consumul de combustibil. Astfel, echipa de design a hotărât să creeze o formă care să opună rezistenţă minimă. Am vorbit anterior despre similitudinea designului exterior cu FCX Clarity, dar asemănarea este şi mai evidentă atunci când cele două vehicule sunt privite din profil. Este clar că partea posterioară a celor două vehicule sunt aproape identice ca formă - şi pe bună dreptate.

În primul rând, linia ce pleacă din centrul plafonului până la partea superioară a portbagajului are unghiul optim pentru a controla fluxul de aer, cu turbulenţe minime. De asemenea, veţi observa că partea frontală are o formă conică ce ajută la fluxul de aer. Un flux de aer stabil ajută înaintarea vehiculului cu frecare minimă.

„Conceptul acestei forme principale este denumit ‚Aero Athlete'," afirmă domnul Minowa. „Reflectă o formă sportivă, fără tensionări şi elemente inutile."

Forma hayonului este la fel de importantă - din nou, se poate compara forma modelului Insight cu cea a FCX Clarity sau CRZ sau cu cea a modelului original Insight. Toate dispun de aceeaşi formă şi linii pentru a ajuta aerodinamicitatea.

„Am învăţat multe lucruri despre aerodinamicitate încă de la primul model Insight," declară domnul Minowa, Creative Chief Designer. „De la montantul B către partea posterioară cele două modelele sunt foarte similare, dar nu am putut efectua optimizări radicale deoarece modelul Insight trebuia să fie foarte atrăgător."

Partea inferioară a caroseriei este mai lată, ceea ce ajută calităţile aerodinamice, şi oferă o mai mare stabilitate - vehiculul câştigând un aspect mai masculin.

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Honda_CT
05-02-09, 22:02
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Aero Athlete
Aceasta a fost tema generală pentru designul părţii exterioare a modelului Insight. Elemente aerodinamice din dorinţa de a reduce rezistenţa la înaintare şi partea frontală a vehiculului, păstrând însă caracterul atrăgător şi sportiv al vehiculului. Această formă a fost testată într-un tunel de vânt şi practic forma a fost creată de vânt. Partea atletică a conceptului se referă la o caroserie netedă, fără greutate inutilă sau volum inutil. Forme vizuale dinamice ale panourilor precum muşchii unui atlet. Forma atrăgătoare a „cozii aero" este rezultatul studiilor aerodinamice şi, aceeaşi formă poate fi găsitea la partea posterioară a modelului FCX Clarity şi a modelului original Insight.

Forma cabinei este integrată în capotă şi respectă linia grilei frontale ce evidenţiază forma hexagonală a părţii inferioare a barei de protecţie. Designul părţii anterioare incorporează identitatea FCX Clarity pentru a recunoaşte statutul de pionier al vehiculelor cu tehnologie fuel cell.

ŞASIU
Şasiul Insight este nou, dar datorită încercării noastre de a produce un vehicul accesibil de dimensiuni compacte, se bazează pe componentele ultimului model Jazz - prin urmare, dispune de componentele (suspensii, frane si directie) şi caracteristicile unui supermini. Având ca punct de pornire Jazz, inginerii au dezvoltat un pachet ce corespunde sistemului hibrid, au creat spaţiu suficient pentru adulţi şi un incredibil spaţiu de depozitare.

Structura compartimentului motor şi partea frontală a vehiculului sunt aproape identice cu cele ale modelului Jazz, cu câteva modificări minore pentru îmbunătăţirea protecţiei la impact, dar spatele platformei este unic. Ampatamentul este de 2550 mm (cu 50 mm mai lung decât Jazz).

Pe această platformă sunt utilizate suspensiile anterioare şi posterioare ale modelului Jazz, ceea ce înseamnă MacPherson pe faţă şi bară de torsiune H pe spate mărind capacitatea portbagajului.

Din punct de vedere dinamic, scopul era obţinerea unor performanţe flexibile dar stabile în toate condiţiile de carosabil.

Repoziţionarea rezervorului combustibil
Deşi are elemente comune, poate cea mai importantă diferenţă dintre platforma Jazz şi cea a Insight este poziţia rezervorului de combustibil. Mulţi dintre dumneavoastră sunteţi familiarizaţi cu poziţia centrală a rezervorului de combustibil al modelului Jazz, sub scaunele frontale, ceea ce face vehiculul versatil, dar pentru platforma Insight a fost luată decizia de a pune rezervorul sub scaunele din spate ale vehiculului.

Acest lucru înseamnă că scaunele pasagerilor pot fi montate mai jos, rezultând un plafon mai jos şi prin urmare o formă aerodinamică a caroseriei, ajutand la economisirea de combustibil la viteze mari.

Frâne
Sistemul de frânare include discuri pe faţă şi spate ce, împreună cu sistemele ABS, Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD) şi Brake Assist, sunt parte a dotării standard.

Inginerii Honda s-au concentrat pe furnizarea puterii efective de oprire fără a influenţa cursa pedalei atât în timpul utilizării obişnuite cât şi la frânarea de urgenţă.

Jante şi pneuri
Insight este echipat cu jante din aliaj cu şapte spiţe pentru a intensifica aspectul sportiv al vehiculului.

Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA)
Toate versiunile Insight sunt echipate cu sistem Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA), proiectat pentru a asista şoferul să menţină controlul în viraje, la accelerare şi la manevrele bruşte prin aplicarea frânei pe roţile din partea dreaptă sau stângă, în funcţie de necesitate, şi prin controlarea sistemelor cuplu motor.

La cel mai simplu nivel, VSA deţine o funcţie de control al tracţiunii ce detectează patinarea roţii la accelerare şi coordonează utilizarea forţei de frânare şi a cuplului motor pentru recăpătarea tracţiunii.

În situaţiile în care roţile motrice se află pe suprafeţe cu diferite niveluri de tracţiune, spre exemplu suprafeţe ude, sistemul aplică forţa de frânare roţilor care patinează, permiţând pneului cu aderenţă mai mare să mişte vehiculul. Suplimentar, sistemul reduce puterea motorului pentru a minimaliza învârtirea roţii.

Un martor clipeşte pe tabloul de bord atunci când sistemul este activ pentru a conferi stabilitate vehiculului. Lângă tabloul de bord, în habitaclu, se află un buton pentru dezactivarea sistemului VSA.

Garanţie
Modelul Insight beneficiază de o garanţie standard de 3 ani sau 100.000km, 3 ani garanţie pentru coroziune, 5 ani garanţie pentru sistemul de evacuare şi 12 ani garanţie coroziune structurală - plus, o garanţie unică de 8 ani pentru întregul sistem IMA, inclusiv baterie high-power.

MOTOR, PROPULSOR ŞI TRANSMISIE
Conceptul sistemului hibrid IMA are deja 10 ani - debutând o dată cu modelul original Insight în 1999. Sistemul IMA - Integrated Motor Assist - este alcatuit dintr-un motor de 1.3 litri cu frictiune redusa, fiind prima sursa generatoare de putere, un motor electric ultra subtire, o baterie foarte usoara si compacta si o transmisie continua variabila (vezi „De ce IMA" , p 20).

Acest sistem a fost utilizat cu succes nu doar pe modelul Insight, ci şi pe Civic IMA, şi succesorul său, Civic Hybrid. De-a lungul anilor, sistemul a evoluat şi-a micşorat dimensiunile şi greutatea, costurile de producţie sunt acum mai mici, iar ultima versiune, ce echipează Insight, dispune de cea mai avansată tehnologie IMA.

Motorul este nou, dar se bazează pe motorul de 1.3 litri al modelului Civic Hybrid. Motorul i-VTEC de pe Civic Hybrid a fost modificat, avand experienta adusa de modelul Jazz in ceea ce privetse consumul de combustibil. Tehnologia noua de fabricare a pistoanelor in scopul reducerii frictiunii, combinata cu un nou sistem catalictic duce implicit la reducerea semnificativa a consumului de combustibil. Aceste nouati impreuna cu un proces de combustie imbunatit duc la ridicarea randamentului motor cu 2%.

În timpul decelerării, atunci când sarcina motorului este zero, combustia din cei patru cilindrii este oprită precum si functionarea supapelor, acest lucru ducand la izolarea volumului cilindrului si la eliminarea fenomenului de pompaj, astfel reducandu-se pierderile prin frecare din grupul piston. Diminuand pierderile prin frecare, motorul/generator a devenit mai eficient si implicit a crescut cantitatea de energie recuperata pe perioada de decelerare.

In fapt, tehnologia noua folosita la fabricarea grupului cilindru piston a fost impetuos dezvoltata pentru a reduce pirderile prin frecare.

Tehnologia folosită pentru a închide cilindrii, VCM (Variable Cylinder Management), este, de asemenea, utilizată pentru a închide toţi cei patru cilindrii atunci când este necesar cuplu puţin - la viteze mici de croazieră, spre exemplu. În acest mod, Insight este alimentat doar de motorul electric, motorul termic rotindu-se fara a produce randament.

Singur, motorul produce 88 CP şi un cuplu de 121 Nm, dar elementul cheie al sistemelor hibride este suportul oferit de motorul electric ce ajută la îmbunătăţirea performanţelor şi menţine la nivel minim nivelul emisiilor şi consumul de combustibil.

Ce este un hibrid?
Hibridul este combinaţia dintre un motor pe benzină şi un motor electric. Motorul electric integrat asistă motorul prin mărirea puterii în timpul accelerării pentru a îmbunătăţi consumul de combustibil. De asemenea, vehiculul este menţinut la ralanti pentru a reduce emisiile, astfel încât atunci când şoferul stationeaza în trafic motorul se opreste in cel mai silentios mod.

Rezultatul: un vehicul ce se comportă ca un vehicul pe benzină în ceea ce priveşte performanţele, are un nivel redus de CO2 comparativ cu un diesel echivalent şi oferă un consum excelent de combustibil.

Motor electric
Pe langa unmotor termic nou, Insight beneficiază si de un motor electric nou, îmbunătăţit ce utilizează bobine spiralate de înaltă densitate şi magneţi foarte performanţi pentru a produce 14 CP şi 78 Nm. Dar adevăratele elemente avangardiste ale acestui motor sunt dimensiunea şi forma - versiunea actuala este mult mai subţire decât motorul modelului Civic Hybrid (35,7 mm versul 61,5 mm), ceea ce înseamnă că întregul sistem IMA este mai compact şi mai uşor.

Şi bateria a suportat îmbunătăţiri; aceasta este localizată sub podeaua portabajului pentru a ajuta la coborârea centrului de greutate

Sistemul de răcire al bateriilor motorului generator a fost mult îmbunătăţit, pentru cresterea eficientei si acantitaii de energie furnizate acestuia.

Viteza de regenerare(incarcare) a bateriei a fost de asemenea îmbunătăţită, ceea ce a dus la recuperarea si transformarea mult mai rapida a energiei de franare, in energie electrica, care la randul sau a fost livrata rapid si in cantitate mai mare catre motorul elecric.

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Honda_CT
05-02-09, 22:06
Pentru ca acest document este mult mai lung am sa atasez integul document in format word ca arhiva ZIP.

Honda_CT
06-02-09, 10:05
COMUNICAT DE PRESA HONDA MOTORS - 02.feb.2009

Honda Insight Hybrid debutează la nivel european
ASIMO, robotul umanoid avansat Honda, va ajuta la lansarea noului Insight Hybrid la ediţia din 2009 a Salonul Auto de la Geneva.

Noul Insight, ce va debuta la ediţia europeană a salonului auto, a fost creat pentru a oferi un vehicul de familie practic, cu 5 locuri, la un preţ convenabil, cu un consum excelent de combustibil şi emisii reduse CO2.

Ultimul hibrid Honda renaşte numele Insight ce a fost utilizat pentru prima oară în anul 1999. De asemenea, marchează o revenire Honda în producerea hibridelor aerodinamice, proiectate pentru a optimiza performanţele eficientului tren de rulare combustibil-electric.

Insight combina un motor optimizat 1.3 litri i-VTEC cu un motor electric de dimensiuni reduse. Acest motor electric oferă asistenta motorului atunci când sunt solicitate performante mai bune si funcţionează ca un generator în timpul decelerării si frânarii. De asemenea, permite doar funcţionarea electrică în anumite condiţii de viteză redusă şi medie.

Insight a fost creat pentru a oferi consum redus de combustibil şi nivel redus de noxe. Elementul sau cheie este sistemul Ego Asist ce este dotare standard. Partea superioară a tabloului de bord, unde este poziţionat vitezometrul, îşi schimbă culoarea ambientală ce este verde dacă conduceţi ecologic, albastră/verde atunci când vehiculul este condus în mod acceptabil şi albastră atunci când conduceţi fără a lua în considerare economia.

Lumina ambientala a vitezometrului este combinata cu o diagrama de bare ce este mai mult decât un dispozitiv de măsurare a economiei instantanee. Display-ul din centrul turometrului afişează accelerarea sau frânarea agresivă şi încurajează şoferul să se situeze în mijlocul display-ului cu o utilizare progresivă a pedalelor de frână şi acceleraţie.

Tabelul progresului, în timpul fiecărei deplasări vor apărea frunze pe icoanele din centrul dispozitivului, dacă şoferul îndeplineşte condiţiile ideale de şofat ecologic. Dacă stilul de condus depăşeşte aceşti parametrii pe o perioadă lungă de timp, atunci plantele se vor ofili. La finalul fiecărei deplasări şoferul primeşte un scor, pe care îl acumulează în timp, şi gradual, vor fi recompensaţi cu trofee pentru un condus corect pe o lungă perioadă de timp.

Insight a fost creat pentru a oferi un vehicul de familie practice, la un preţ convenabil, cu un consum excelent de combustibil şi emisii reduse CO2. Insight oferă spaţiu excelent pentru cinci pasageri şi o capacitate a portbagajului de 408 litri fără a avea scaunele rabatate. Repoziţionarea IPU şi a bateriilor se traduce prin faptul că Insight dispune de scaune ce se rabatează aproape complet, mărind capacitatea portbagajului la 1017 litri*.

Interiorul practic este complementat de o caroserie atractivă şi aerodnamică, ce ajută Insight să atingă un nivel de 101 g/km al emisiilor CO2 şi un consum combustibil de 4.4l/100 km conform procedurilor europene de testare.

Insight va fi comercializat în Europa începând cu sfârşitul lunii martie 2009, iar preţurile vor fi anunţate la Salonul Auto de la Geneva.

Sursa www.hondanews.eu
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VFX
07-02-09, 00:18
Honda Insight hits Japan, Mugen accessories follow (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/mugen-honda-insight-1/1339506/)

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/02/mugen_insight_580.jpg
It might seem like an odd pairing at first, but we're sure Honda's Mugen accessorized Insight hybrid will find a few buyers in its home market of Japan. Included in the exterior body kit are a sports grille and lip spoiler up front, a set of ground effects for each side, a reworked from fascia and huge wing out back along with optional window visors. Inside, a full set of sports mats is available along with a drilled aluminum set of pedals.

There isn't much to speak of underhood besides a high performance oil filter (seriously?) and lubricants, but there is a sport silencer kit complete with a triangular tip. The best bits, though, are definitely in the handling department, with two sets of alloy wheels in either 15- or 16-inch sizes joining a sports suspension package that includes a new set of springs and dampers that reduce ride height by 20 millimeters. So far, there's been no indication that any of these accessories will make it Stateside, but there's always eBay.


Mod Edit: Nu mai puneti embed (adica in post) pozele cu latime mai mare de 800 de pixeli. Atasati-le pentru ca stricati dimensiunea paginii.

tokyodream
07-02-09, 07:53
asta bucata Honda place la mine :) :) :)

Achim
07-02-09, 12:26
ah nu am vazut si postasem si eu aici: http://www.hondafan.ro/forum/showthread.php?p=211990#post211990 :(

Honda Insight on sale in Japan

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Unveiled just a while ago at the Los Angeles Auto Show, Honda’s new Insight Hybrid is now on sale in Japan. The base version of the five-door hatch will set you back a modest 1,900,000 Yen to close to $20,500.00. Honda had previously announced they plan on introducing the Insight to the United States for less than $20,000.

On a related note, the USA Today is reporting hybrid car sales are suffering in the recession. The Toyota Prius has seen January sales drop 28.6% versus January of last year. Add lower gas prices into the mix and it makes more sense to buy a gasoline powered compact car… if at all.

HONDA PRESS RELEASE

TOKYO, Japan, February 5, 2009 - Honda Motor Co., Ltd. announced today that the all-new Insight hybrid vehicle will go on sale in Japan on Friday, February 6, 2009. A five-door, five-passenger compact hatchback starting at an affordable Ą1,890,000*1, the Insight features a lightweight, compact hybrid system that combines exceptional fuel economy with fun-to-drive performance.

Designed to set the standard for compact cars for a new era, the Insight combines outstanding environmental performance with fun, responsive driving and efficient, versatile packaging. The all-new Honda Insight was developed with the goal to provide these attributes in a car that is affordable to more customers.

Offering customers exceptional fuel economy, the Insight features a newly developed hybrid system including a 1.3-liter i-VTEC engine and Honda’s proprietary Integrated Motor Assist (IMA). To further support fuel-efficient driving, the Insight features the Ecological Drive Assist System (Eco Assist) as standard equipment on all models.

* The name Insight was chosen to denote that this new vehicle provides “insight” into a new era in which hybrid vehicles come within reach of most car buyers.

*1 Manufacturer’s suggested retail price including consumption tax for the G-type


Honda Gives First Hint at 2010 Insight Pricing

TOKYO — Honda on Thursday said its 2010 Insight hybrid will go on sale on Friday in Japan at a starting price that is the equivalent of $21,041. Honda has not yet announced U.S. pricing, but has said that the hybrid will be priced below the Honda Civic Hybrid. The Insight will arrive in U.S. showrooms in April.

The base 2009 Honda Civic Hybrid starts at $24,320, including a $670 destination charge.

The five-passenger Insight hatchback takes direct aim at the Toyota Prius hybrid. The base or "standard" grade 2009 Toyota Prius starts at $22,720, including a $720 destination charge. The uplevel Touring grade Prius starts at $24,990, including destination.

Honda said its Insight will get a U.S. fuel economy rating of 40 miles per gallon in city driving and 43 mpg on the highway. However, the EPA has yet to post official fuel economy numbers on the Insight. All Insights are powered by a 1.3-liter SOHC i-VTEC engine and a continuously variable transmission, along with a new generation of Honda's IMA hybrid system. The Insight has an estimated driving range of 400-plus miles, said Honda.

Inside Line says: More evidence that the Honda Insight appears poised to undercut the Toyota Prius, as expected, in the U.S. market. — Anita Lienert, Correspondent

Sursa: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=141510

hondatu
07-02-09, 19:52
Nu stiu ce-i cu lansarea asta in Japonia ca pana acum Honda ne spunea de o lansare simultana pe toate marile piete (SUA / JP / EU), ceea ce vad ca nu se intampla.

@Honda_CT:
cine face acele traduceri ale mapelor de presa? Honda EU, HTRO sau un traducator partener pentru HTRO?
98% mi se par OK, dar ar merita mai bine slefuite.
Asta fiind bineinteles un moft la nivel inalt ca acum 2-3ani nici nu visam la asa ceva.

tokyodream
07-02-09, 20:11
Honda anunta preturile pentru Insight !

http://www.auto.ro/stiri/honda-anunta-preturile-pentru-insight (http://www.auto.ro/stiri/honda-anunta-preturile-pentru-insight)

Honda a dezvoltat Insight ca un hibrid cu un pret redus, stabilit la aproximativ 20,000 $ in America si 21,200 $ in Japonia.

Hibridul este deja disponibil in Japonia de ieri, 6 februarie. Pretul pentru echiparea standard, "G" este de 21,200 $, in timp ce echiparea LS atinge 23,800 $.
Honda va introduce Insight pe majoritatea pietelor internationale in aprilie, insa pana atunci exista riscul de a modifica pretul in functie de evolutia pietelor auto.

Honda spera sa vinda 200,000 de unitati de Insight in toata lumea anual, dintre care jumatate in America. Modelul va fi produs initial doar in Japonia, la Suzuka, insa exista planuri pentru mutarea productiei si in America, unde constructorul detine 4 fabrici.

Insight este mai ieftin fata de Prius, care incepe de la 24,850 euro, in Europa, si 22,000$, in America.




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De revazut:

http://www.protv.ro/emisiuni/shows/pro-motor/video/17136




YouTube - 65+ MPG! - 2010 Honda Insight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYhgGBelfo)

Achim
07-02-09, 20:40
Insight este mai ieftin fata de Prius, care incepe de la 24,850 euro, in Europa, si 22,000$, in America

21.500 Prius full (cu navi, care e optiune, pe langa ecranul touchscreen) la dealerul Toyota din Hamburg, 70 de km la bord :naughty: (intr-adevar, pe firma, fara TVA)

oricum... e mai ieftin si mai atragator Insight pt moment, insa nu e pe cat de ieftin s-au laudat inainte de lansare :what:

Honda_CT
07-02-09, 22:21
@Honda_CT:
cine face acele traduceri ale mapelor de presa? Honda EU, HTRO sau un traducator partener pentru HTRO?
98% mi se par OK, dar ar merita mai bine slefuite.
Asta fiind bineinteles un moft la nivel inalt ca acum 2-3ani nici nu visam la asa ceva.

Nu sunt 100% sigur, insa 90% tind sa cred ca e vorba de Honda EU pentru ca traducerea in limba romana apare simultan cu postarea comunicatului oficial (cel in engleza).

Exista un thread special pentru comunicatele de presa?

tokyodream
08-02-09, 10:13
Exista un thread special pentru comunicatele de presa?

http://www.hondafan.ro/forum/showthread.php?t=2865 (http://www.hondafan.ro/forum/showthread.php?t=2865) :yes:

Bflorinel
08-02-09, 13:05
in urmatorul numar din autosho se prezinta Honda Insight!!

VFX
08-02-09, 23:18
YouTube - mugen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSGuQ2NREfk)

tokyodream
09-02-09, 11:59
Tuning la hibrid!

http://www.promotor.ro/noutati-auto-masini-noi/articol-honda-insight-by-mugen-3884278 (http://www.promotor.ro/noutati-auto-masini-noi/articol-honda-insight-by-mugen-3884278)

Mugen, divizia de tuning a constructorului japonez Honda, şi-a prezentat pachetul de tuning pentru modelul hibrird ce a început deja să fie comercializat în Japonia.




http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/2/41/1823/3884278/7/mugen-honda-insight-7.jpg?width=200&height=106 (http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/2/41/1823/3884278/7/mugen-honda-insight-7.jpg)Un eleron spate imens (http://www.promotor.ro/noutati-auto-masini-noi/galerie-honda-insight-by-mugen-3884278)
Modificările sunt în mare parte de ordin estetic, cu unele cazuri particulare în care capitolul aerodinamică nu rămâne neatins. Astfel, kitul exterior pentru noua Honda Insight (http://www.promotor.ro/teste-auto-test-in-premiera/articol-honda-insight-test-in-spania-3789982)se numeşte cât se poate de sugestiv, Zero Lift şi este compus din spoiler faţă nou, praguri mai mari, o grilă faţă sport, difuzor spate şi o evacuare triunghiulară. Şi mai trebuie să amintim şi de eleronul spate imens plus gama de jante de 15 sau 16 inch.

Iar dacă cei de la Mugen tot se laudă cu asemenea modificări "aero-wise", ar fi fost fain dacă vedeam şi noi în cifre modificări ale cx-ului şi implicit ale consumului. Pentru cei care vor mai mult, Mugen le pune la dispoziţie o suspensie sport, ce coboară garda la sol cu 2 cm, sau un sistem de monitorizare a presiunii în pneuri, plus noi covoraşe de interior şi pedale din aluminiu.

Aveti 24 de poze !!!

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Achim
09-02-09, 21:17
din cauza bateriilor, dar asta e general valabil la toate hybridele momentan. am inteles ca Honda incearca dezvoltarea unui nou gen de baterii care sa nu mai fie daunatoare ;)

oricum, exista un topic separat pe tema asta la sectiunea "Automobile" ;)

tokyodream
17-02-09, 15:18
Rupe piata:

Honda sees brisk demand for cheap hybrid Insight !

http://www.whistlerquestion.com/article/20090216/WHISTLER17/302169980/1030/honda-sees-brisk-demand-for-cheap-hybrid-insight&template=cpArt (http://www.whistlerquestion.com/article/20090216/WHISTLER17/302169980/1030/honda-sees-brisk-demand-for-cheap-hybrid-insight&template=cpArt)

TOKYO - Honda Motor Co. said Monday that demand for the Insight, the cheapest hybrid vehicle on market, is soaring in Japan with orders topping its monthly target of 5,000 in just over a week.


The Insight gas-electric hybrid, which starts only at 1.89 million yen (US$21,000), hit showrooms across Japan on Feb. 6. The launch of the cheapest hybrid vehicle came amid a devastating slump in the global auto market.


But Japan's No. 2 automaker said demand for the Insight has been so brisk that the company has received more than 5,000 orders, easily beating its monthly target.


"This is so much better than expected. The Insight is priced below two million yen, and is energy efficient. We believe consumers like these aspects," said Honda spokeswoman Natsuno Asanuma.


Even before the launch, Honda had received about 5,000 orders for the Insight, Asanuma said. The Insight goes on sale in April in the U.S., and in March for Europe.


Honda's Insight is cheaper than Toyota Motor Corp.'s Prius, the most popular hybrid, which sells for $22,000 in the U.S. and 2.3 million yen in Japan.


Hybrids tend to be more expensive than regular cars because they come packed with both a gasoline engine and an electric motor. Switching between the systems, depending on speed, boosts mileage.


Toyota sold 285,700 Prius cars worldwide last year, and will introduce a remodelled Prius starting in May. The new Prius is bigger and has a more powerful engine than the current one, and likely to be more expensive.

tokyodream
17-02-09, 20:30
Drive-test noul INSIGHT:


http://hondafan.etp.ro/gallery/v/tokyodream/noul+INSIGHT/ (http://hondafan.etp.ro/gallery/v/tokyodream/noul+INSIGHT/)

tokyodream
19-02-09, 11:30
Insight se vinde bine:

http://www.hondacivic.ro/insight-se-vinde-peste-asteptari/ (http://www.hondacivic.ro/insight-se-vinde-peste-asteptari/) :)

tokyodream
20-02-09, 14:49
5000 de euro bonus in Italia la cumpararea unui hibrid Honda Insight!

http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/5000-de-euro-bonus-in-italia-la-cumpararea-unui-hibrid-honda-insight-18625.html (http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/5000-de-euro-bonus-in-italia-la-cumpararea-unui-hibrid-honda-insight-18625.html)

Datorita programelor de mediu ale guvernului italian, pretul unui Honda Insight (19.900 de euro la baza) poate cobori pana la 14.900 de euro.

Modelele hibride se pregatesc sa atace Europa. Dupa ce Prius a reprezentat pentru foarte mult singura optiune in acest segment, Honda lanseaza la Geneva noul Insight, un model care are relativ aceeasi forma si dispune de aceleasi elemente practice si tehnologice, dar care promitea un pret mai bun decat al omologului sau de la Toyota.
Ei bine, italienii sunt primi care au publicat pretul viitorului model din gama Honda. Conform Autoblog.it, Hponda Insight va pleca pe piata din Cizma de la 19.900 de euro. Partea interesanta vine insa abia acum. Din pretul de baza se scad bonusurile oferite de guvernul italian la cumpararea unei masini hibride, astfel ca Insight va putea fi cumparat de orice italian cu doar 16.400 de euro. Mai mult, daca clientii se hotarasc sa isi caseze masina veche si sa isi cumpere un Insghit, din pretul rezultat se mai scad 1.500 de euro, astfel ca suma de care trebuie sa dispuna un italian pentru a-si putea achizitiona un astfel de model ajunge la doar 14.900 de euro.
In acest pret, Insight ofera in standard sase airbag-uri, climatizare automata, ESP (denumit VSA la Honda), sistem audio stereo cu patru difuzoare de inalta rezolutie si padele pe volan.

In Romania, Insight va fi disponibil incepand cu luna iunie a acestui an, preturile interne urmand sa fie cunoscute in momentul lansarii.

hondatu
22-02-09, 14:15
Ceva si pentru cei ce inteleg franceza:

http://www.cartech.fr/essais/videos/essai-honda-insight-39386755.htm (http://www.cartech.fr/essais/videos/essai-honda-insight-39386755.htm)

Achim
24-02-09, 10:11
Iata o trecere in revista a modelelor hybride oferite de producatorul japonez.


2009 Honda Civic Hybrid
Base MSRP: $24,225
EPA fuel economy (city/highway): 40 mpg/45 mpg

The Civic Hybrid returns superb fuel economy, particularly for a vehicle with a hybrid system that's considerably less sophisticated than that of a Toyota Prius. It looks only as silly as the standard Civic sedan, which we think is a good thing. So what could possibly be wrong with the Civic Hybrid? Well, it's slow — real slow. Like zero to 60 mph in 13.5 seconds kind of slow. That's a good 3 seconds slower than a 2009 Toyota Prius.

2010 Honda Insight
Base MSRP: $19,000 (est.)
EPA fuel economy (city/highway): 40 mpg/43 mpg

The 2010 Honda Insight shares only its name with the first Honda hybrid (the first hybrid to be sold in the U.S., in fact). Unlike the funny-looking, two-seat, all-aluminum Insight, which strived for maximum fuel economy, the 2010 model is a funny-looking, five-seat steel vehicle that seeks to balance high fuel economy with an affordable purchase price. It's a sort of hybrid for the masses (although pricing has not yet been determined). The Insight's 1.3-liter four-cylinder and small electric motor provide a total peak output of 98 hp. That's not a huge number, but enough, in our testing, to get the Insight to 60 mph from a standstill in 10.9 seconds (or 10.5 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip). Ultimately, the Insight does not challenge the Prius on outright fuel economy, but instead feels considerably less weird to drive (at least compared to the '09 Prius). It goes on sale in April.

Sursa: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=142115

maharvey
24-02-09, 16:47
la cererea lui tokyodream pun stirea asta :

Honda creste productia lui Insight in urma comenzilor ridicate

Numarul comenzilor pentru hibridul Insight este de trei ori mai ridicat decat cel asteptat de Honda. Niponii vor creste astfel productia pentru a limita timpul de asteptare.
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Honda a anuntat ca va creste numarul de exemplare Insight produse zilnic, cauza fiind legata de numarul de comenzi, care a depasit asteptarile initiale. Conform datelor oferite de compania japoneza, comenzile pentru luna aprilie sunt in acest moment de trei ori mai numeroase decat exemplarele aflate in plan.

http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/honda-creste-productia-lui-insight-in-urma-comenzilor-ridicate-18705.html

ticker
24-02-09, 17:31
asta e de bine. Problema e... pot sa faca suficienti acumulatori? :D

tokyodream
24-02-09, 18:01
Multumesc NAE, dar ai "mancat" pasaje pe traseu :)

http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/honda-creste-productia-lui-insight-in-urma-comenzilor-ridicate-18705.html (http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/honda-creste-productia-lui-insight-in-urma-comenzilor-ridicate-18705.html)

Numrul comenzilor pentru hibridul Insight este de trei ori mai ridicat decat cel asteptat de Honda. Niponii vor creste astfel productia pentru a limita timpul de asteptare.

Honda a anuntat ca va creste numarul de exemplare Insight produse zilnic, cauza fiind legata de numarul de comenzi, care a depasit asteptarile initiale. Conform datelor oferite de compania japoneza, comenzile pentru luna aprilie sunt in acest moment de trei ori mai numeroase decat exemplarele aflate in plan.
"Raspunsul pietei este coplesitor. Trebuie sa crestem planurile de productie", spune Hiroshi Kobayashi, seful biroului de Operatiuni Interne Honda.
Comenzile in crestere au declansat astfel un fenomen extrem de rar intalnit in aceasta perioada, timpul de asteptare pentru modelul japonez fiind de o luna de zile din momentul comenzii.
Targetul de vanzari pentru Honda Insight este de 200.000 de unitati pe an, Europa urmand sa primeasca circa 40.000 de unitati din acest total. Hibridul Honda este pozitionat de niponi ca "al cincilea model global" al marcii, dupa Civic, Accord, Jazz si CR-V, care impreuna aduna doua treimi din vanzarile mondiale ale marcii.

Principalul rival al lui Insight, Toyota Prius 3, va fi lansat in luna mai, pretul noului model urmand sa fie insa ceva mai ridicat decat cel al generatiei actuale. I aceste conditii, presa japoneza sustine ca Toyota ar putea sa recurga la o strategie neobisnuita de marketing, lansand noul Prius cu o reducere menita sa aduca modelul la acelasi nivel de pret cu cel al lui Insight.

tokyodream
25-02-09, 20:10
Driven: 2010 Honda Insight (http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1018876_driven-2010-honda-insight) !

http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1018876_driven-2010-honda-insight (http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1018876_driven-2010-honda-insight)



Climbing into the Clear Sky Blue (think Papa Smurf) 2010 Honda Insight (http://www.thecarconnection.com/bottomline/honda_insight_2010), the first thing I noticed was the enthusiast-oriented gauge cluster, very similar to that found in the Honda Civic (http://www.thecarconnection.com/modelintro/honda_civic-sdn_2009). The huge arc that circumscribes the entire affair is simple to read; despite the mass of eco-info presented in front of you, it's never distracting and can be programmed quickly to offer more or less info in the fuel-saving game.

The digital speedometer, identical to the Civic (http://www.thecarconnection.com/modelintro/honda_civic-sdn_2009)'s (but seemingly more approriate here), is set in a hooded pocket that subtly shifts between green (http://www.thecarconnection.com/style/green) and blue hues. Green (http://www.thecarconnection.com/style/green) means you're conserving fuel; blue means you ain't. Because this color change occurs gradually and is just below the driver's line of sight (almost a sort of heads' up display), I found that a new obsession with keeping it in the green (http://www.thecarconnection.com/style/green) never once distracted from my attention to the road.



http://images.thecarconnection.com/sml/honda_100170458_s.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=1NX1S67K1EPB1 7FHDG82&Expires=1236108141&Signature=cN69596gHKH5G6bhM%2F0ggFi7eDA%3D
2010 Honda Insight
Enlarge Photo (http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/image/100170458_2010-honda-insight)

The 2010 Honda Insight (http://www.thecarconnection.com/bottomline/honda_insight_2010) has all sorts of ways to keep you operating efficiently. An ECO button retards throttle response and will let uphill cruise control speeds drift a few mph south to keep you from going into the blue zone; it also shuts the engine down more frequently at a dead stop. A small LCD display can be configured to rate the eco-friendliness of your driving, displaying instant mpg, overall mpg, and even showing a profusion (or a dearth) of little electro-leaves depending upon how miserly you are behind the wheel.

But what if you're in a hurry, and this annoyingly green (http://www.thecarconnection.com/style/green), self-rightousmobile belongs to your Aunt or your significant other and you could give a damn about being green (http://www.thecarconnection.com/style/green)? Well, put the transmission selector in "S" mode, use the optional paddle shifters to select and hold 7 different CVT ratios, and lay on the gas. With the help of the insta-torque electric motor, you'll likely be surprised at how quickly this little Honda (http://www.thecarconnection.com/make/honda) steps off and stays in the game. It will never pin your ears back, but neither will it feel strained or have trouble keeping up or merging with fast-moving traffic. What the Insight will NOT do is sound enticing or muscular at full-throttle: the CVT quickly shoots the diminutive 1.3-liter four to right below redline (a few hundred RPM higher with the transmission in "S") where it provides all the aural delight of a Kitchen Aid blender. However, at lower engine speeds the four-cylinder is subdued and pleasant.



http://images.thecarconnection.com/sml/honda_100170216_s.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=1NX1S67K1EPB1 7FHDG82&Expires=1236108141&Signature=Tebi6uQRw0WcLmBs1tpZ%2Faw%2Fuvg%3D
2008 Paris auto show
Enlarge Photo (http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/image/100170216_2008-paris-auto-show)

Throw the Insight (http://www.thecarconnection.com/bottomline/honda_insight_2010) into a corner and - surprise! - the skinny tires on 15" wheels don't melt into exhausted understeer. This is a lithe, surprisingly tenacious little sedan. Traction is broken by front and rear ends at almost the same time, and a sudden lift of the throttle even provokes the tail to step out a tad. Direct steering with decent feedback doesn't feel like the electronically boosted unit that it is, and despite their strong regenerative nature, the brakes don't surge or step in their boost level though they do occasionally cause the car to stop a few feet shorter than intended. Interestingly, there was a little wander on the highway, requiring semi-frequent course corrections. Whether a function of the steering rack or the skinny tires I can't say.

In ECO mode, activated by the press of a green (http://www.thecarconnection.com/style/green) button, the engine is more eager to shut down at stoplights. It will occasionally use this function in regular mode, though not nearly as often. Startup is almost seamless, but of course the engine needs a split second to prep for duty. In ECO mode, a couple of times I noticed a touch of odd surging upon acceleration after engine re-start, but a good 95 percent of the time it felt like a traditional, gasoline-only powertrain.



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2008 Paris auto show
Enlarge Photo (http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/image/100168496_2008-paris-auto-show)

In theory, I frowned upon the 2010 Honda Insight (http://www.thecarconnection.com/bottomline/honda_insight_2010); it uses just an updated version of Honda's (http://www.thecarconnection.com/make/honda) Integrated Motor Assist system from 1999 whose electric motor is not stout enough to pull the car from a dead stop under electric power alone. They say all-electric cruising at 30 mph is possible, but in a few days of driving I never witnessed such operation. With city mileage a full 8 mpg below the 2009 Prius (http://www.thecarconnection.com/fullreview/toyota_prius_2009)' rating, I figured the new Insight would offer typically depressing hybrid (http://www.thecarconnection.com/style/hybrid) driving dynamics with less economy to boot.

But then I got behind the wheel and came away grinning. Take your pick: creep around in green (http://www.thecarconnection.com/style/green) mode and consistently get mileage around 40 mpg, or squirt around town like a hooligan and still get respectable figures (I rarely saw anything below an indicated 25 mpg). The 2010 Honda Insight (http://www.thecarconnection.com/bottomline/honda_insight_2010) is a hybrid (http://www.thecarconnection.com/style/hybrid) suitable for the aggressive driver; perhaps it will lure a whole new flock of car buyers into the hybrid (http://www.thecarconnection.com/style/hybrid) fold.

Fanatic
26-02-09, 17:32
L-au testat si la 5th gear si nu au fost asa impresionati de el ....

bgdsta
26-02-09, 17:39
Adevarul ca la un diesel modern, scoti un consum mai bun ca la hybrid. Un avantaj al hybridelor este taxarea redusa dar costa si foarte mult masina.

ticker
26-02-09, 22:15
Mda, numai sa nu ma sfatuiasca sa cumpar Golf TDI ca sa salvez planeta ca mai bine ma impusc decat sa il iau...

hondatu
26-02-09, 23:39
Apropo preturi, in Germania vor fi cam asa:

- Standard - 19.550€
- Comfort - 20.550€
- Elegance - 22.200€

tokyodream
28-02-09, 12:29
Closer look: Honda Insight hybrid !

http://autos.canada.com/news/story.html?id=f9cc440d-3ed5-4835-9869-4cd774aba098 (http://autos.canada.com/news/story.html?id=f9cc440d-3ed5-4835-9869-4cd774aba098)

The original Honda Insight of 2000 was a groundbreaker without a doubt. In North America, it pioneered a major new trend with its high-tech hybrid gasoline/electric powertrain. It started a rush on this kind of technology from rival automakers that continues today, though the overall market for hybrid vehicles remains very small on a worldwide basis. It's also worth noting that manufacturers were building hybrid vehicles as long ago as 1901, so perhaps the current surge of enthusiasm is more of a revival than a breakthrough.

The old Insight actually had quite a long life, remaining in Honda's range until 2006. By then, Honda was offering Civic and Accord models in hybrid form and the Insight was never a paragon of practicality. It was sleek, sporty, thrifty and lightweight, but cargo space in the snug two-seater hatchback was always tight and it was not the best choice for any kind of road trip - especially with two occupants.
The Insight won numerous awards for economy and most of those built are still around and much-loved by their owners. I drove one quite recently and was impressed by the way it had weathered nine years of intensive competition by rival automakers. This car can still hold its own, except when it comes to the aforementioned interior space.
All major manufacturers have now developed hybrids, ranging from compact crossovers to those huge Cadillac Escalade SUVs now available with this technology. But it has been the Toyota Prius that most caught the imagination of buyers, possibly because it was a "standalone" body style and not adopted from another model. Perhaps hybrid owners yearned to be easily recognizable as such - to "make a statement," in fact. They're seemingly not happy about their "green driving" commitment being marked by little more than a modest trunk badge or a stick-on leaf on the body-sides. Be that as it may, Honda decided that its all-new 2010 5-passenger Insight hybrid would get a unique body of its own and not be an adaptation of an existing gasoline-powered product.
The Insight is certainly a striking piece of styling and will please buyers who've been waiting for Honda to take a run at Toyota's market-leading Prius. It actually looks a little like a Prius (is there a "hybrid look" emerging?) but it has enough of its own character to prompt very approving comments from the people who checked out the one I was testing. Prominent are the projector-beam halogen headlights and the car's low-nose, high-tail styling. The glass area is substantial, so visibility is above average.
Honda points out that the car has styling cues from its Clarity fuel cell model, now in production, and was planned as what the automaker's designers term "an aero athlete." It certainly has a very impressive aerodynamic efficiency figure of just .28. To further enhance this aerodynamic performance and thus make the car even more economical, there's a full undercover beneath the bodyshell and the tires are of low rolling-resistance design. Target fuel economy for this car is 4.8-litres/100 km city and 4.5-litres/100 km highway. Emission levels are, as would be expected, correspondingly low.
Powering this slick new Honda is a 1.3-litre, 4-cylinder i-VTEC gasoline engine with a 10-kilowatt electric motor to help out. The electric motor is located inline between the engine and the continuously variable transmission (CVT) to form what Honda calls its "Integrated Motor Assist (IMA)" hybrid system. The electric motor boosts power during acceleration and in some cruising modes and recaptures energy from the Insight's forward momentum during braking.
A novel feature of IMA is what Honda dubs its "Ecological Drive Assist System" or Eco Assist. This is a fascinating (and all-new) feature and I had a lot of fun with it when I test drove the Insight. It's a driver-selected fuel efficiency mode that really works. By pressing the ECON button on the dash, various vehicle systems affecting fuel economy can be controlled for maximum effect - throttle control, CVT operation, idle stop duration, air-conditioning and cruise control. To help get the best out of the car from a fuel economy standpoint, there's a 3D screen within the speedometer that changes colour to reflect how efficiently the driver is accelerating and braking. It's easier to try than to describe, but if a driver is truly serious about saving gas and drives with care, the benefits are undeniable. Plant leaf graphics, appropriately enough, are used to "log" the driver's economy performance from one to five, so a constant check can be made. It sounds complex, but in use, it's very entertaining - and you'll make even fewer visits to your local gas station if you become a five-leaf Insight driver.

Basically, the Insight is a four-door hatchback, which is fine by me. Short of an out-and-out SUV or minivan or perhaps a wagon, there's nothing more practical than a small or mid-sized 4-door hatch. The company has claimed the space under the rear hatch will take three sets of golf clubs, though I haven't tried that. Two would be more than acceptable and there's certainly an amazing amount of room back there. The rear seatbacks fold in 60/40 fashion, creating a very roomy little rig for hauling loads around. The battery and related components are smaller than those previously used by Honda hybrids and tuck away neatly beneath the rear load deck.

The cockpit is an interesting mixture of current Honda practices and technically advanced instrumentation and control design - like the economy monitoring system mentioned earlier. Honda calls it "futuristic" and that's as good a description as any. It's a "busy" layout alright, with lots of controls and dials, but it's easy enough to get used to. The front seats are very well done with excellent hip and lumbar support if you decide to turnoff the ECON button and get into some spirited driving, which the car is fully capable of. The interior is an interesting mixture of tones and colours - so much better than those "everything from the seat belts to the carpets" days when monotones were very much in vogue. Rear seat room is better than you'd expect from what is quite a compact car.
The car is tremendous fun to drive, whether zipping along in something of a hurry or watching each graphic leaf come up on the screen to reward your economy driving skills. It will be interesting to see whether this Honda takes a big bite out of Prius sales (that car is new for 2010 too) or carves its own segment out of the hybrid market. Perhaps it'll achieve both goals.
It's almost unnecessary to add that the Insight is beautifully built and trimmed in the best Honda tradition. You can search this car far and wide for a bad panel fit or a piece of trim going astray - the quality is that good.
There are two trim versions - LX and EX, with the latter having more features. Both versions have very full spec sheets, but the EX adds a voice-recognition navigation system with Bluetooth, stability control, alloy wheels, door mirror turn indicators, variable intermittent wipers, steering wheel paddle-shifters and one or two other items. Both models have excellent sound systems, but with the EX, you get a 6-speaker setup.
Obviously, any new hybrid that's going to take on the Prius must offer something special in addition to advanced technology and smart design. In the case of the Insight, this might well be its price tag. The car is set for an April launch and there's no word yet on how much it will cost. Honda is being cagey and talking about something in the $20,000 - $25,000 range, but super-optimistic industry analysts are hinting at under twenty grand. On that point, we'll have to wait and see. Frankly, the car deserves maximum attention from hybrid buyers - or anyone interested in saving resources - because it offers so much automobile in addition to its remarkable fuel economy.

Specifications (2010 Honda Insight):

Price (MSRP): N/A
Body Type: 5-door hatchback
Seating Capacity: 5
Layout: front engine, FWD
Gasoline-Electric: 110 hp, 123 lb-ft of torque, 1.3L, 8-valve SOHC I-4 10 kW DC brushless
Transmission: CVT
Acceleration (est. 0-100 km/h): 9 seconds
Brakes (front/rear): disc/drum, ABS, EBD, BA
Dimensions (L/W/H/WB): 4,376 / 1,694 / 1,427 / 2,550 mm (172.3 / 66.7 / 56.2 / 100.4 in)
Curb Weight: 1,235 kg (2,723 - 2,734 lbs)
Tires: 195/65R15
Cargo Volume (trunk): 450 / 892 L (15.9 / 31.5 cu-ft)
Fuel Consumption (city/hwy): 4.8 / 4.5 L/100 km
Safety: front, front-side, and front and rear curtain-type airbags
Warranty (mo/km) 36/60,000 comprehensive; 60/100,000 powertrain
Competitors: Toyota Prius
Website: www.honda.ca (http://www.honda.ca)

tokyodream
01-03-09, 08:37
U.S. hybrid price war preview: Insight takes lowest hybrid price crown in UK (http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/02/24/u-s-hybrid-price-war-preview-insight-takes-lowest-hybrid-price/) !

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/02/24/u-s-hybrid-price-war-preview-insight-takes-lowest-hybrid-price/ (http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/02/24/u-s-hybrid-price-war-preview-insight-takes-lowest-hybrid-price/)

When the new Honda Insight and third-generation Toyota Prius go on sale in the U.S. later this year, there will be a bit of battle to see if the lower-priced Insight can topple the third-generation Prius from the top hybrid spot. Now that pricing for the Insight has been announced, we can see a preview of that match-up brewing in the UK, and Honda is staking it's claim for the "most affordable hybrid" title. The Insight will start at Ł15,490, and go up from there to Ł18,390. The entry-level Insight SE CVT will cost Ł2,380 less than its nearest rival, which is, you guessed it, the second-generation Prius T3 CVT. We can vouch that the Insight is capable of 60+ mpg (http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/01/11/abg-first-drive-2009-honda-insight-63-4-mpg/), too. We'll have to see how many miles we can squeak from the 2010 Prius when we get our chance behind the wheel soon. See more details from Honda after the jump.

[Source: Honda]

hondatu
08-03-09, 14:11
Impresiile mele de la Geneva chiar daca nu sunt cele mai reusite poze:

http://hondafan.etp.ro/gallery/v/hondatu/Insight/ (http://hondafan.etp.ro/gallery/v/hondatu/Insight/)

Achim
08-03-09, 22:04
Impresiile mele de la Geneva chiar daca nu sunt cele mai reusite poze:

http://hondafan.etp.ro/gallery/v/hondatu/Insight/ (http://hondafan.etp.ro/gallery/v/hondatu/Insight/)

multumim pentru poze ;)

BogdanRR
09-03-09, 12:46
Eu o astept cu nerabdare.
Mi se pare singura masina in ultimii ani demna de numele Honda.
De ce zic asta?
Practica, simpla, usor si distractiv de exploatat, eficienta, cu siguranta fiabila, la un pret rezonabil.
E singurul lucru bun pe care cred ca la facut Honda in era Fukui.
N-o fi chiar o inovatie, dar luata la bob marunt e un lucru inteligent facut. Si mai ales echilibrat.
Aa, e si chiar putin sportiva. Banuiesc ca ati vazut testul Edmunds unde a scos 10,9 sec pana la 100km/h si a fost, deci, mai rapida decat Civic Hybrid cu aproape 3 secunde...
Plus ca toti care au testat-o au mentionat ceva: se conduce mult mai bine decat Prius, care are un usor comportament de dulap.

tokyodream
09-03-09, 13:44
Frumos spus..............asteptam primul exemplar pe forum, chiar al tau, de ce nu .....

hondatu
09-03-09, 22:51
Nu stiu daca s-a mentionat pe undeva dar incerc.
Don Yasunari Seki, leaderul de proiect al Insight.ului ne-a motivat decizia Honda de a monta un Mild Hybrid in loc de Full Hybrid a la Toyota precizand ca sistemul celor din urma e unul supradimensionat deoarece e de peste doua ori mai greu decat al lor iar pentru a parcurge 1,6km electric, sistemul celor din urma are nevoie de un electromotor de 5 ori mai puternic si de o baterie de 3 ori mai mare. Toate acestea insemnand spatiu, material, greutate si costuri.
De aici si explicatia Toyota de a mai recupera cate ceva cu ajutorul sistemului solar de pe plafon si A/C optimizata (thanks Denso).
Sistemul Honda, in a III-a generatie e atat de avantajos in productie incat e mai ieftin decat un motor diesel (de aceiasi cilindree).
Plus ca e atat de compact incat va fi folosit si pe Jazz Hybrid si pe CR-Z, masini de marime subcompacta.

BogdanRR
10-03-09, 10:26
Fara sa fiu partinitor Honda, din ce am citit, nu cred ca sistemul celor de la Toyota va avea un viitor. Si cand zic viitor ma refer la capacitatea de a implementa sistemul intr-un mod eficient ca si cost, pentru a fi disponibil si clientilor mai modesti la buzunare. E clar, Toyota merge mult pe marketing, asa cum a facut-o pana acum, pe cand Honda cauta sa razbata pe drumul eficientei din cat mai multe puncte de vedere. Nu poti avea sistemul perfect, dar poti acoperi o arie mai mare de target-uri. IMA poate fi usor implementat pe orice motor. Cu cat bateriile, calcaiul lui Ahile al hibridelor, se prezinta mai eficient tehnologic cat si ecologic de fabricat, cu atat poti implementa sistemul mai usor. Una din criticile aduse Inisght e ca nu se incarca de la priza...poate daca lumea ar gandi un pic mai mult decat superficial, si-ar da seama ca intr-un astfel de mod n-ai avea deloc control asupra poluarii. Iti incarci masina de la priza cu curent produs intr-un mod poluant...ci ce-ai facut pentru mediu? Nimic, ai doar impresia ca ai facut ceva cumparandu-ti un plug-in hibrid. Ideea cea mare e recuperea energiei in timpul mersului...e atata energie pierduta la o masina conventionala, chiar si la un hibrid, incat ai putea misca-o doar prin simpla recuperare a energiei la mers!
Tokyo, nu tin mortis sa fiu primul, ideea e sa convingem cat mai multa lume sa gandeasca la un alt nivel.

tokyodream
10-03-09, 12:40
Draga Bogdan, si eu mi-as lua una :)

Dan P
10-03-09, 12:59
Si eu:yes:

BogdanRR
11-03-09, 13:45
Ok, pai atunci cand o veni decizia si posibilitatea de a cumpara o masina, sa va vad facand pasul cel mare.:D

tokyodream
15-03-09, 16:43
Honda Powers Up National Ads For Insight !


http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?art_aid=102144&fa=Articles.showArticle (http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?art_aid=102144&fa=Articles.showArticle)

Honda is turning on the juice to power up the Honda Insight hybrid. The national campaign for the launch of the all-new Insight begins today with a message that the car--which will be priced below any other hybrid car--is both inclusive and affordable. The effort, via L.A.-based RPA, has a "hybrid for everyone" concept delivered with a cast of ethnically diverse people and an upbeat message.



The Torrance, Calif. automaker says the campaign targets consumers who want the benefits of a hybrid but don't want to sacrifice fun, style and sportiness.
The campaign comprises three TV spots, with the second two spots breaking next month, and includes a partnership with NBC for five 40-second branded-entertainment vignettes promoting both NBC Universal's "Earth Week" and the Insight. Each features a well-known actor from an NBC prime-time show driving the car. In the vignettes, the actors talk about their everyday lives, and how--despite their Tinsel Town careers--they try to live simply.
The vignettes start on prime time on April 20, highlight certain features of the Insight and showcase the car as a "hybrid for everyone."
Each of the three traditional TV ads, which will air during top-rated network and cable programming, has a different setting: one on a downtown rooftop, another a park, and the third the beach. They show a single Insight driving, then more of the cars and people at each setting. More and more Insights and passengers are revealed until each location is filled with Insights.
The ads also introduce a plant-leaf graphic also used in the car. The effort also includes print and outdoor ads. And, starting in late April and early May, there will be in-theater, newspaper, radio and interactive ads in major markets. Aerial banners will run during Memorial Day weekend in Los Angeles and the Fourth of July weekend in select top markets.
Honda will also host a tire-kicker Earth Day Insight Launch Event on April 22nd at the Honda Center, where consumers can gawk at, test-drive and vie to win an Insight via sweepstakes.
Honda has a broad Web campaign to tout the car that includes a blog, videos disseminated across a range of sites, Web ads and a tie-in with an online game launch. The blog at insight.honda.com includes videos of Honda engineers, product planners, and the like talking about the car. Video "tours" of the car are also at AOL, MSN, Yahoo and YouTube as well as ABC, CBS and NBC and other TV and movie programming Web properties. The car will, per the company, be one of the launch sponsors of Xbox Live Primetime's "Play and Win," with Insight video featured before and during game play.



YouTube - Beach -Honda Insight Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWhwc7WHv1U)

tokyodream
20-03-09, 12:02
Hybrid price war: Honda Insight vs. Toyota Prius !

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/03/hybrid-price-war-honda-insight-vs-toyota-prius.html?EXTKEY=I72RSC0 (http://blogs.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/03/hybrid-price-war-honda-insight-vs-toyota-prius.html?EXTKEY=I72RSC0)

[/URL]Ihttp://blogs.consumerreports.org/.a/6a00d83451e0d569e20112797b499d28a4-pis there about to be a hybrid price war between Toyota and Honda? Toyota is looking to reduce the price of the current Prius to $19,250 in Japan in order to more closely match the [URL="http://blogs.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/03/2010-honda-insight-pricing.html"]price of the new Honda’s Insight (http://blogs.consumerreports.org/.a/6a00d83451e0d569e20112797b499d28a4-pi), according to Bloomberg News (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ayGc_kim6iIk). The Insight (http://onlocation.consumerreports.org/applications/CROSHOWS/AutoShows/New-Car-Preview/2-Model.asp?Ctype=Small%20cars&ID=872&__) will start at $19,800 including destination charges, and if left unchallenged, it would be the lowest-price hybrid in American when it goes on sale this spring. The starting price for the out-going base 2009 Prius is $22,000.
Undercutting the Insight's price wouldn't be easy for Toyota. The Prius is a larger car and it has a more complex hybrid system that allows the car to be regularly propelled at low speeds on the battery alone. The 2010 Prius (http://onlocation.consumerreports.org/applications/CROSHOWS/AutoShows/New-Car-Preview/2-Model.asp?Ctype=Sedans&ID=903&__) has standard stability control; you need to buy the Insight in its higher-priced $21,300 EX trimline to get ESC. Given this, if Toyota's serious at undercutting the Insight's base price, perhaps we'll see a price-leader Prius model to rival the base Insight, though doubtful it would include steel wheels as shown in our photo.
Pricing for the redesigned 2010 Toyota Prius with higher fuel economy and a larger engine has not yet been announced. It will arrive at dealers in late spring.
Hybrid vehicles sold like hot cakes last year amid high gas prices. In response, automakers accelerated new hybrid production to increase sales. It seemed like the right move at the time, but now hybrids are sitting on dealer lots. According to an LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/la-fi-hybrid17-2009mar17,0,3048957.story?page=1) article, only 15,144 hybrids were sold nationwide last month. Even the segment-leading Prius has seen sales dip, being down 30 percent from this time last year. And now, the market is about to be expanded with new models, including the Insight, Ford Fusion (http://onlocation.consumerreports.org/applications/CROSHOWS/AutoShows/New-Car-Preview/2-Model.asp?Ctype=Sedans&ID=805&__) and Mercury Milan hybrids (http://onlocation.consumerreports.org/applications/CROSHOWS/AutoShows/New-Car-Preview/2-Model.asp?Ctype=Sedans&ID=855&__). Competition should help prices, both retail and transaction, be more attainable than in the past.
It may be a difficult time for many consumers to buy a new car, but for those in the market this year, there will be new, fuel-efficient choices whose appeal may increase should gas prices rise again this summer—especially if priced aggressively.

—Liza Barth (http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/maintenance-accessories/the-people-behind-the-tests-liza-barth/overview/0611_barth.htm%20)

BogdanRR
20-03-09, 21:14
TOV a scos cu ea 71.3 mpg (cam 3,3 l/100km) cu mentiunea ca nu s-au chinuit sa scoata consumul asta tarandu-se cu ea. De altfel, li s-a dat un nr specific de km intr-un mix stil comuter (suburbii-extraurban-urban) si o limita de timp. Se mai mentioneaza ca obtinerea unui consum de 60mpg (~4 l/100km) este destul de facila. Deci masina asta chiar a fost construita mai cu cap.

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?page_number=4&article_id=808565

tokyodream
21-03-09, 09:20
nici nu stii cat ma bucura cand spui asta.............deja clasamentul la mine arata asa:

1 - CR-V
2 - in urcare, INSIGHT
3 - in coborare, Accord Tourer

:)

Bflorinel
21-03-09, 09:49
La mine clasamentul arata asa:
1-civic type-r
2.civic 5D
3.honda S2000
4.accord sedan

tokyodream
22-03-09, 07:51
New Honda Takes on the Prius !

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/business/21hybrid.html?_r=2&partner=TOPIXNEWS&ei=5099 (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/business/21hybrid.html?_r=2&partner=TOPIXNEWS&ei=5099)

TOKYO — The road is about to get a little more crowded for the Toyota Prius (http://autos.nytimes.com/2008/Toyota/Prius/286/3326/293013/researchOverview.aspx?inline=nyt-classifier). Starting Tuesday, the Honda Motor Company (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/honda-motor-co-ltd/index.html?inline=nyt-org) will offer American consumers what it bills as “the world’s first affordable hybrid.”

Costing just shy of $20,000, the Honda Insight (http://autos.nytimes.com/2006/Honda/Insight/248/2837/281667/researchOverview.aspx?inline=nyt-classifier) promises to let drivers respond to both of the leading crises of our day: the environment and the recession.
If the Insight’s introduction in Japan is any indication, Toyota (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/toyota_motor_corporation/index.html?inline=nyt-org) should be worried. The car went on sale here on Feb. 6, and orders have soared, reaching 18,000 in just the first three weeks — topping Prius’s current sales. In fact, the Insight pushed Prius out of the top-10-selling cars for February.
“I have people asking about hybrids that I never had before,” said Tsuguhito Tokita, a Honda dealer in Tokyo. “With this price, it’s easy to recommend to anyone.”
If Honda makes inroads in the United States, the world’s largest market for hybrids, it could force the market leader, the Toyota Motor Corporation, to bring down its prices. Japanese news media have reported that Toyota, which controls 70 percent of the American hybrid market, will introduce a cheaper hybrid model with a smaller engine in 2011 — in part, reportedly, because of the Insight’s success.
Sales of hybrids have been hit hard by the global economic crisis. After several years of strong growth in Prius sales, Toyota had virtually no increase in 2008 from the previous year, as the overall auto market struggled.
“In the short term, it’s a very difficult sell,” said Christopher Richter, a Tokyo-based auto analyst at CLSA. “We’ve entered into a very deep recession, and consumers aren’t keen on buying new cars. Fuel prices have plunged, with fuel so cheap people don’t care much about it.”
But so far the Insight has been a bright spot for Honda in an otherwise dismal year of plunging sales that have led the automaker to make painful cutbacks and give up its prized Formula One (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/formula_one/index.html?inline=nyt-org) racing team.
Toyota plans to lower the sticker price of the Prius, according to Japan’s largest business daily, Nikkei. The automaker has refused to confirm the report.
“But I can tell you we’re not satisfied with the current state,” said Paul Nolasco, a Tokyo spokesman for Toyota, which has sold one million Prius vehicles since their introduction a decade ago. “The Insight’s popularity is evidence that the public is recognizing hybrid technology.”
The market for hybrids could be headed for a huge expansion. The development of cheaper technology, economies of scale and more government subsidies for environmentally friendly vehicles could take what was a niche technology into the mainstream.
A bigger market for hybrids could also ensure that they stay the green vehicle of choice over full electric or hydrogen cars, which remain prohibitively expensive. A report released by J. P. Morgan (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/morgan_j_p_chase_and_company/index.html?inline=nyt-org) in October predicted that the global market for hybrids “will rise exponentially” to 9.6 million in 2018 from 500,000 units in 2007— and the current economic slump will not significantly slow that rise, the authors said.
The Insight could bring about a big turnaround for Honda, which tried selling hybrids for a decade without much success. In fact, it discontinued a previous Insight model in 2006, believing consumers found hybrids too expensive. But when sales of Toyota’s Prius rose as oil prices spiked, Honda quickly changed course.
Behind the less expensive Insight is an aggressive cost-cutting effort, as well as technological sacrifices.
Instead of the more complicated hybrid system used in the Prius, the Insight’s main source of power is a lightweight gasoline engine that is assisted by smaller batteries. That greatly reduces manufacturing costs, but gives the Insight lower fuel efficiency (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/f/fuel_efficiency/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) than the Prius — 43 miles per gallon on the highway compared with 45 miles per gallon for the Prius. The Insight also shares parts with other Honda models, which helps the carmaker keep costs to a minimum.
Honda has also struck a chord with an overhaul of the car’s shape. One reason its previous hybrids failed to take off, analysts say, was that they did not come in distinctive shapes.
“A lot of people who drive hybrids want to make the statement, ‘I am driving a hybrid,’ “ Mr. Richter said.
But Honda’s new Insight looks remarkably like — well, Toyota’s triangular Prius, which has become synonymous with hybrid technology. Analysts say that should help sales.
The global economic slowdown could be an advantage for the Insight, at least over the Prius.
“Several years ago, the Prius would have won hands down,” Mr. Richter said. “But when you’ve got a raging recession, you come down to the question: Do you want the fancier car with greater fuel economy, or the one that still has pretty good economy, allows you to be seen driving hybrid, and is cheaper?”
“The Insight could steal a lot of Toyota’s thunder,” he said.
Whatever the outcome of the new hybrid race, it is certain to reinforce the dominance of Japanese automakers in eco-friendly cars. Unlike their American counterparts, Japanese automakers have long made energy efficiency a priority, teaming up with Japan’s electronics conglomerates to develop high-powered batteries.
In 1996, Toyota and Matsushita (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/matsushita-electric-industrial-company-ltd/index.html?inline=nyt-org), now Panasonic, formed a joint venture to produce nickel-metal hydride batteries for hybrid cars. It plans to produce a million batteries a year by 2010. The venture also plans to make more powerful lithium (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/l/lithium_metal/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier)-ion batteries.
Honda, which gets its batteries from Panasonic and Sanyo (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/sanyo_electric_co/index.html?inline=nyt-org), has also invested heavily in battery production, setting up a company with a battery maker, GS Yuasa, to produce lithium-ion batteries. That move came partly because Honda was nervous about obtaining batteries from the same company as its archrival, Toyota. The greater capacity would allow Honda to introduce hybrid versions of its other models.
A string of auto companies worldwide, from Ford (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/ford_motor_company/index.html?inline=nyt-org) to start-ups like Tesla Motors (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/tesla_motors/index.html?inline=nyt-org), have announced or introduced hybrids, plug-ins or electric cars. Others are hurrying research into fuel cells and other alternatives. A technological breakthrough could still turn the market on its head, analysts say.
But for now, only Toyota and Honda have invested the money to mass-produce the mainstay batteries at a scale that makes economic sense. Batteries are still expensive to develop and produce, and kinks in the technology remain, as demonstrated by a string of flare-ups involving Sony (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/sony_corporation/index.html?inline=nyt-org)-made lithium-ion laptop batteries three years ago.
“Other companies just don’t have a mass-production setup yet,” said Kohei Takahashi, a Tokyo-based auto analyst for J. P. Morgan. “They might be able to come up with hybrids, but they’re too expensive.”

tokyodream
27-03-09, 15:23
2010 Toyota Prius vs. 2010 Honda Insight Comparison Test Drive: Battle of the Fuel Sippers—The Rematch !

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4309705.html?nav=RSS20 (http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4309705.html?nav=RSS20)

Yountville, CALIF.—The Toyota Priushttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4309705.html?nav=RSS20#) used to have it easy. Since the second-generation 2004 model hit mainstream success, the Prius has become the gold standard for hybrid fuel efficiency. But much has happened in the past year. The competition has grown tougher, in particular from Toyota's cross-town rival, Honda. A few months ago, Honda unveiled the new Insight hybrid, a car that clearly has the Prius in its crosshairs.

To see how the Insight measured up, we compared it against the 2009 Prius (http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4298887.html), knowing all along that the new Priushttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4309705.html?nav=RSS20#) was just around the corner. The Honda was victorious, logging better fuel economy in a sportier package. But that was, oh, three months ago. Now we've got the all-new Prius and have brought these two players together again for round two. We didn't have the opportunity to perform acceleration and braking tests this time, but we did run them both on a 300-mile, mixed-driving loop. Call this Prius vs. Insight—The Rematch. –Larry Webster


The Specs

We've covered the mechanical details of the Prius and the (http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4306961.html)Honda Insight (http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4285568.html), so let's see how these cars differ.

The Honda'shttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif (http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4309705.html?nav=RSS20#) powertrain is the more conventional of the two. A 13-hp electric motor is sandwiched between the 1.3-liter four-cylinder engine and continuously variable transmission. As a result, Honda's engine must turn when the car is moving. Notice, we said, "turn." Under a narrow set of conditions, for example, when cruising at light speeds, the Insight can shut down the engine, but it still rotates. The VTEC system closes the valves to minimize the pumping losses associated with turning the engine, but the always-coupled engine is still a drag on the system. A 0.6-kilowatt-hour nickel-metal-hydride battery stores the energy recovered during braking.

The Toyota, by comparison, employs a pair of electric motors and a planetary CVT to link them with the 1.8-liter gas engine. This unique gearbox allows several energy paths. Under hard acceleration, the 80-hp main electric motor assists the gas engine. Under light loads and moderate acceleration, however, the Prius shuts off the gas engine and moves under electric-only power. There's even a dash-mounted EV switch that provides about a mile of electric-only range, which is limited by the capacity of the 1.3-kwh NiMH battery.

As much as these cars differ mechanically, on the outside they almost look like twins. Toyota moved the apex of the curve that describes the roof on the new Prius four inches rearward. This has transformed the car's profile from a cone-head (sorry, Toyota) to a sleek sedan. Both cars benefit from extensive aerodynamic development. Honda hasn't released the Insight's drag coefficient figure, but it's probably close to the Prius's 0.25. The Prius is, however, a bigger car. Its 106.3-inch wheelbase is nearly 6 inches longer than the Insight's. The extra length is noticeable in the rear seat. The Prius has ample room for adults, while the Insight can feel a bit pinched.

Clearly Honda and Toyota forged different paths developing their hybrids. The Insight is meant to be a hybrid for the masses, with a simple, cost-effective powertrain that gives up some fuel economy in return for a lower price. The Insight starts at just $20,470, thousands less than Toyota is expected to charge for the Prius (The 2009 Prius started at $22,720 and the new one is about $500 more). The Honda gets 40 mpg on the EPA city test and 43 mpg on the highway. But the Prius, which is about 300 pounds heavier, is in another league, returning 51 mpg on the city cycle and 48 mpg on the highway.

The range of optional equipment for the Prius reads like a Lexus ad. Buyers can opt for features like a self-parallel-parking system, lane-departure warning, radar cruise control, and even a solar-powered system that cools the interior when parked. Fully loaded, a Prius will likely top 30 grand.


The Drive

Our route began in California's Napa valley and meandered South into Oakland. From there we hit the streets of San Francisco before heading north along the coast. Finally, we turned east to finish where we started. We traveled 296 miles at an average speed of 37 mph, splitting the mileage into thirds. One-third was spent in the city, another third on two-lane country roads and the final portion was highway cruising.

We appreciated the Honda's frisky personality. There's no mistaking the Insight for a sport sedan, but there's a level of driver engagement similar to what we've come to admire in the Honda Fit. While there are parts of the interior that feel inexpensive, it's an enjoyable place to spend time. We also liked the speedo's subtle coaching—it changes color from blue to green to measure real-time driving behavior. There's a log to track your performance.

It was Honda's sporty persona that gave it the win in our January test. But after a few rotations behind the new Prius's oval steering wheel, we knew the Insight wouldn't have it so easy this time. The Prius interior is nicely styled. While the digital gauges still reside in the center—out of the natural line of sight—the dash is handsome. And we dig the new center console that gracefully arcs to join the dash.

The seats are far more supportive in the new Prius too. The steering-wheel buttons on the tilting and telescoping wheel have a cool feature called Touch Tracer Display. Just hovering your hand close to these flush-mounted buttons brings a digital picture of the button's layout to the dash's main screen. So you can decide which button to press without having to look down at the wheel. There are also many more storage cubbies than before.

The practically of the Prius is undeniable. But the drive is most impressive. We can no longer call the Prius an appliance on wheels. Toyota revised the suspension, stiffened the steering gear, and has baked in some fun-to-drive zest. The Prius takes a confident attitude in the corners and stays there. The steering no longer requires constant correction while cruising.

While we didn't measure the performance of these cars, we know from our last test that the Prius was slightly quicker than the Insight. Toyota claims that new one is even faster. And on the curvy back roads the Toyota wasn't working quite as hard as the Honda to keep a swift pace.

One driver commented that "You can really hear the Honda's engine working," and that's one of the biggest differences between these two cars. The Prius is much more refined; it's dead silent. In fact, we dubbed it the Mini Lexus.


The Bottom Line

Selecting a winner didn't come down to which car returned the best fuel economy. But the car we all wanted to take home at the end of the day was also the thriftiest with fuel. The Insight delivered 40.9 mpg, a solid number considering how hard we drove these cars. But the Prius returned an amazing 45.8. Sure, the Toyota costs more, but it's also worth the money.


http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/prius-insight-430-b--0309.jpg

tokyodream
27-03-09, 15:29
http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/insight/ (http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/insight/)

http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/insight/_assets/images/modelgrades/main.jpg

SE - 15.490 lire

ES - 16.790 lire

ES-T - 18.390 lire

hondatu
28-03-09, 11:08
Noutati si din partea mea:

- deci la noi modelul se lanseaza pe 18.4 tot in 3 versiuni.
- 7 culori de exteriori, 2 de interior (fara piele).

Altceva nu-mi mai pica acum dar cred ca am mai postat cate ceva si saptamanile trecute.

mandrei83
31-03-09, 21:38
Chiar astazi am avut ocazia sa vad pentru prima data noua Honda Insight intr-un showroom, asa ca va pun si voua niste poze in attach, ca sa vedeti despre e vorba si sa va spun primele impresii..

Am vazut pe Internet ca pentru varianta de baza, in Italia, Franta, Germania si tarile nordice, preturile incep de la 19.000EUR pentru varianta de baza.. sa speram ca o sa avem ocazia sa o gasim mai ieftin prin alte parti, cand o aparea si in restul Europei sau la vecinii nostri.. :D

Momentan sunt in dilema: sa fie un Jazz Executive 1.4 sau un Insight viitoarea mea masina, dar inca sunt pus pe ganduri din cauza pretului, pe care nu-l stiu inca.. M-am orientat spre mai multe masini, dar in final am ajuns la Honda si am ramas placut impresionat de tot ce am gasit la aceasta firma.

Prime impresii despre Insight:
-masina spatioasa
-materiale de foarte buna calitate, cu o mica retinere in privinta plasicului de bord. Parerea e doar subiectiva..
-nu prea mi-a placut plasticul din jurul sistemului audio, e unul negru si lucios, pare ca se zgarie usor.. Posibil sa imi schimb parerea daca mai vad odata masina..
-bord intr-adevar de OZN. Mi se pare mult mai frumos si mai bine conturat decat la Civic-ul sedan si mult mai normal decat o masina gen Civic hatchback.
-stopuri spate cu led
-lumini fata cu lentila, posibil tehnologie LED pe faza scurta (nu m-am uitat cu atentie, dar intuiti voi din poze)
-foarte confortabila in interior
-tot felul de gadget-uri, butoane, luminite albastre etc.. e nebunie!
-in rest, fiecare ce constata, cand va aparea si in Romania..

Oricum, per ansamblu, merita investitia pentru cei care au bani sa o cumpere.. E CLAR de luat in considerare in defavoarea unei Toyota Prius, o benzinara sau diesel la 15-17.000EUR.
Ca si design, calitate, fiabilitate etc etc, e clar inaintea la multe masini..

Pentru alte intrebari/informatii va stau la dispozitie.. Cred ca o sa mai dau o tura prin showroom sa o vad, sunt innebunit dupa ea! :x

Diversion
31-03-09, 21:59
fericitule! :p masina arata demential
P.S. in ce showroom sunt facute? (evident tara trebuie specificata)

tokyodream
01-04-09, 10:15
daca esti in Italia, daca mergi in programul RABLA , dai o masina veche si iei INSIGHT cu 14.900 euro :) :) :)

mandrei83
01-04-09, 17:32
fericitule! :p masina arata demential
P.S. in ce showroom sunt facute? (evident tara trebuie specificata)

Sunt in Olanda acum, Eindhoven.. aici am vazut Insight-ul..
Masina costa 22.500EUR aici, full..:)) Sunt tarile nordice, unde taxele de inmatriculare sunt mai ridicate si se stie ca oamenii nu isi schimba masinile aici ca pe ciorapi..:D

hondatu
01-04-09, 20:38
Nu chiar o vechitura de articol si totusi interesant:

Honda shows cost-cutting hybrid Insight plant

SUZUKA

Honda’s cost-cutting efforts were on display Wednesday at its plant for the new Insight, where 600 of the hot-selling hybrid models are churned out each day.

The Insight has sold briskly in Japan, largely because it is cheaper than archrival Toyota’s longtime hybrid champion, the Prius.

But media reports that Toyota will set the price of the remodeled Prius lower than expected will force Honda to make even more cost cuts, says Norio Ano, who oversees the Insight’s development.

“We will have to go back to scratch and review all our procedures from step one,” he said.

Honda is out to make the Insight an affordable hybrid at $19,800 in the U.S., where it is set to arrive later this month. Starting at 1.89 million yen in Japan, it has been a hit since going on sale here in February, drawing more than 21,000 in advance sales orders as of March 23, according to Honda. That’s about four times the company’s target.

A price war is expected to heat up once Toyota rolls out its new Prius later this year.

The current Prius, which is a bigger car than the Insight, starts at about $22,000 in the U.S. and 2.3 million yen in Japan.

Japanese media reports have speculated that Toyota will not only set the new Prius price lower than initially expected at about 2 million yen but that it will also continue to sell the current Prius, matching Insight’s price.

It would be an unusual move in the industry, where old models are discontinued. Toyota declined comment on the reports.

“Those are prices we would never have imagined,” Ano said of the reported Prius prices, adding that Honda would likely not be able to further lower Insight’s price.

Reporters got a rare look at the assembly line producing the Insight at Suzuka factory, central Japan, which also makes the Civic, Fit and other models.

To reach production volumes unprecedented for a hybrid—and lower costs at the same time—Honda automated some production procedures, said Fujio Hara, a Honda official who oversees production.

In one corner of the plant, a special robotic arm was rapidly screwing in parts of the hybrid battery, a process previously handled by human workers.

In another cost-cutting move, the number of parts were also reduced for what Honda calls the “intelligent power unit,” made up of the hybrid battery and computer parts that control the hybrid system, he said.

The line for the Insight was flowing briskly, allowing just 65 seconds for each procedure, according to Honda.

Honda began work on cutting costs about four years ago, studying the hybrid Civic, its previous hybrid model, to come up with the low-cost Insight, officials said.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/business/view/honda-shows-cost-cutting-hybrid-insight-plant (http://www.japantoday.com/category/business/view/honda-shows-cost-cutting-hybrid-insight-plant)

tokyodream
02-04-09, 19:54
zeci de poze :

http://www.autobloggreen.com/photos/2010-honda-insight-1/ (http://www.autobloggreen.com/photos/2010-honda-insight-1/)

tokyodream
06-04-09, 19:20
Takeo Fukui: nu vom diminua pretul lui Honda Insight !


Inca de la inceput, Honda Insight s-a vandut foarte bine (http://www.auto.ro/stiri/honda-insight-se-vinde-peste-asteptari), fapt care i-a determinat pe cei de la Toyota sa raspunda cu o reducere de pret pentru Prius.

Manevra liderului mondial nu l-a impresionant insa pe presedintele Honda, Takeo Fukui, care a declarat ca modelul lor hibrid va ramane la acelasi nivel in ceea ce priveste “scorul”.

Duelul dintre Insight si Prius tinde sa devina unul dintre cele mai incitante din noua era a industriei auto, liderii lui Toyota “bombardand” deja pozitiile lui Honda in momentul in care au anuntat o diminuare a costului de achizitie pentru Prius in Japonia; cu toate acestea, dealerii auto din Tara Soarelui Rasare estimeaza ca versiunea de baza a masinii numarului unu mondial va fi la acelasi nivel de pret cu versiunea cu echiparea de mijloc a hibridului Honda, fapt care il scoate tot pe ultimul in avantaj.

Prin urmare, decizia lui Fukui are toata noima din lume, iar japonezul – care, in trecut, s-a aflat si la conducerea lui Toyota –, a declarat ca firma pe care o conduce acum nu se va opri aici in ceea ce priveste tehnologia propulsiei hibrida.

In viitorul apropiat vom asista si la lansarea unor modele de talie mare animate de tandemuri motor cu aprindere interna-motor electric, presedintele Honda declarand ca investitiile in agregate diesel ecologice sunt prea mari din cauza regulilor foarte dure din SUA si Japonia cu privire la emisiile poluante.


http://www.auto.ro/stiri/takeo-fukui-nu-vom-diminua-pretul-lui-honda-insight (http://www.auto.ro/stiri/takeo-fukui-nu-vom-diminua-pretul-lui-honda-insight)

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FUKUI a lucrat la Toyota ???

chipson78
06-04-09, 22:20
nu crede tot ce citesti(mai ales din presa romaneasca):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeo_Fukui

aleksey
06-04-09, 23:40
Acum o saptamana am vazut in olanda sau belgia la reprezentanta Honda un insight pe care scria mare reducere 10% :)

mandrei83
07-04-09, 00:38
Acum o saptamana am vazut in olanda sau belgia la reprezentanta Honda un insight pe care scria mare reducere 10% :)

Zi-ne si noua un pret, ceva..:) Ma mir cum de ofereau discount-ul asta, pt ca nu prea a aparut inca prin Europa, se aduce doar pe baza de pre-comanda. Am inteles ca lansarea oficiala ar fi in cateva zile, in toata Europa.

In showroom-uri se gaseste masina, dar nu se precizeaza pretul.. La fel si in Ungaria, tin legatura cu un dealer.

aleksey
07-04-09, 01:06
Am vazut doar masina in parcare si scria pe ea ceva si -10% , nu am oprit sa vad cat costa ma grabeam sa ajung in belgia , ca la aia se da stingerea la ora 18 , si nu mai gasesti nimica deschis

tokyodream
08-04-09, 19:23
Honda prices Insight to be most affordable hybrid in Canada !

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/posteddriving/archive/2009/04/07/honda-prices-insight-to-be-most-affordable-hybrid-in-canada.aspx (http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/posteddriving/archive/2009/04/07/honda-prices-insight-to-be-most-affordable-hybrid-in-canada.aspx)

When the new 2010 Insight hybrid hatchback goes on sale on Earth Day, April 22, it will be the most affordable hybrid vehicle in Canada, says Honda Canada.

The LX model will come with a suggested retail price of $23,900.

“The Insight is designed to bring hybrid technology within closer reach for many new car buyers in Canada with its affordable pricing,” says Jerry Chenkin, executive vice-president of Honda Canada.

Standard features on the LX include front, front-side and side-curtain air bags, ABS, a continuously variable transmission (CVT), Eco Assist, automatic climate control, tilt and telescopic steering column, cruise control, power windows, a four-speaker AM/FM audio system with CD player and auxiliary audio input for external digital music players.

The premium EX will have an MSRP of $27,500, and adds a navigation system, Vehicle Stability Assist, Bluetooth HandsFreeLink, alloy wheels, steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters, an upgraded audio system with six speakers, USB audio interface, a centre console with armrest and storage compartment and heated side mirrors with integrated turn signals.

A dedicated hybrid, the Insight is powered by an Integrated Motor Assist system comprised of a 1.3-litre i-VTEC gasoline engine and a 10-kilowatt electric motor that together contribute to a Transport Canada fuel economy rating of 4.8 litres per 100 kilometres in the city and 4.5 L/100 km on the highway.

Toyota Canada has yet to announce pricing on its new Prius hybrid, which will be available this June.

National Post

(Photo: The new Insight hybrid starts at $23,900 in Canada. Credit: handout)

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/posteddriving/0407Insight.jpg (http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/posteddriving/0407Insight.jpg)

hondatu
11-04-09, 18:55
FUKUI a lucrat la Toyota ???

Da! Cand era la gradinita! Doamne fereste si apara! Pe timp de criza, bag seama ca unora li se usuca si creierul!
Mai zi ceva daca mai poti!:what:

tokyodream
12-04-09, 09:06
Inside the Honda Insight Hybrid!

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/traffic/auto_show/090409_Inside_the_Honda_Insight_Hybrid (http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/traffic/auto_show/090409_Inside_the_Honda_Insight_Hybrid)

New York International Auto Show

Last Edited: Friday, 10 Apr 2009, 6:20 PM EDT
Created On: Thursday, 09 Apr 2009, 8:08 PM EDT

By ARUN KRISTIAN DAS, MyFox New York
MYFOXNY.COM - A decade after introducing the first mass-market hybrid car in the United States, Honda has followed up by adding a new model to its lineup -- and it has a familiar name. Both vehicles are known as the Insight.
While the first Insight was a two-seater that got more than 60 miles per gallon, the new iteration is a five-door, five-person compact car. The fuel economy of the new Insight is EPA-rated at 40 mpg city/43 mpg highway.
WATCH THE VIDEO FOR A LOOK AT THE INSIGHT (LEFT)
>MYFOX AUTO SHOW COVERAGE (http://www.myfoxny.com/subindex/traffic/auto_show)

The chief selling point of the new Insight appears to be one that most consumers respond to immediately: Price.

The LX base model starts at $19,800. That's thousands less than the Toyota Prius, though there are tradeoffs, beginning with space.

I got a chance to check out the Insight at the New York International Auto Show. I was impressed by the design, both exterior and interior. From the outside, it reminded me a tad of the Prius with its aerodynamic wedge shape. Inside, the dashboard and other surfaces felt solid and smooth, not cheap.

"The all-new Honda Insight brings the cost of entry for hybrid technology within closer reach of an entirely new car-shopping audience," said Dick Colliver, executive vice president of American Honda. "In addition to making good environmental sense, hybrid technology is now entering a new era where it can also make financial sense for a broader range of customers."
But before you throw out the Prius brochure and rush to the Honda dealer, here is the problem: The back seat is tiny. Honda says the Insight is a five-person car.
Yeah, notsomuch.
I'm 5-foot-11, and my head was crushed up against the ceiling and my knees were pushing into the seat in front. So for smaller folks, the back seat might be fine, but I see this car appealing to city-dwelling singles or couples with small kids who need a runabout for errands or shopping. But families with growing kids might find that they will outgrow it fast.

Big plus: The LX comes standard with great safety features such as front, front-side and side-curtain airbags as well as anti-lock brakes. The EX also features Honda's stability control system, called Vehicle Stability Assist, another important safety feature.

tokyodream
14-04-09, 19:33
Honda returns to hybrids with redesigned Insight !


http://www2.canada.com/entertainment/celebrity/honda+returns+hybrids+with+redesigned+insight/835650/story.html?id=835650 (http://www2.canada.com/entertainment/celebrity/honda+returns+hybrids+with+redesigned+insight/835650/story.html?id=835650)


One decade after it brought its Insight two-seater electric hybrid car to North America and suffered the embarrassment of selling fewer than 20,000 of them over seven years, Honda Motor Co. is trying again. And it's not shying away from history. The Japan-based auto-maker said yesterday it will revive the Insight name for a hybrid-only model coming to U. S. dealerships next spring. The reworked Insight, now a five-passenger, five-door compact hatchback, will battle Toyota Motor Corp.' s redesigned Prius in round two of the dedicated hybrid wars. And this time, Honda is banking on price and size to get things right.

"[Honda] has learned to go bigger, they've learned to go not quite so berserk in the styling," said George Peterson, president of AutoPacific, a marketing and product consultancy based in Tustin, Calif.

"They've learned that people who want a very high fuel-efficiency car don't want to give up much. Just because they're technology geeks and green folks doesn't mean they don't want a navigation system and all that sort of stuff. Toyota understood that early on."

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/www2.canada.com/entertainment/celebrity/honda+returns+hybrids+with+redesigned+insight/835650/835651.bin?size=l Honda Motor Co.'s concept model of the Insight hybrid that will be introduced at the Paris Motor Show 2008.





When it was introduced in 1999, the first-generation Insight was billed as the first mass-produced gas-electric hybrid automobile in the United States and the first vehicle to break the 70-miles per-gallon (3.36 l/100km) fuel economy barrier.
Its US$504 annual estimated gas bill topped the Natural Resources Canada rankings of most fuel-efficient vehicles every year until Honda stopped making Insights in 2006.
But the car's small size, bare-bones interior and controversial styling alienated some consumers.
Toyota's revamped Prius won far more buyers and remains the world's best-selling hybrid vehicle.

First rolled out in the United States in 2000, the Prius is now among the 10 top-selling cars there and will soon be built at Toyota's new plant in Blue Springs, Miss.
A 30% increase in U. S. retail gasoline prices over the past year will push both vehicles on to buyer lists, said George Magliano, analyst at Global Insight in New York City.

"Small cars, hybrids, anything that saves you on gasoline is going to sell well. And Honda's got the cachet."

It also may have a price advantage. Honda officials have said the company wants to sell the Insight for less than US$18,500. The Prius now starts at US$22,000.
"This new Insight will break new ground as an affordable hybrid within the reach of customers who want great fuel economy and great value," Takeo Fukui, Honda's chief executive, said in a statement.

Honda said it is aiming to sell 200,000 Insights a year, half of them in North America. It said it also plans to introduce another sporty hybrid car based on the CR-Z model first shown at the 2007 Tokyo Motor Show.
In all, the company said its hybrid sales should grow to about 500,000 units a year, representing more than 10% of its total global auto sales annually.

nvanpraet@nationalpost.com

ologesa
16-04-09, 20:03
...
Standard features on the LX include front, front-side and side-curtain air bags, ABS, a continuously variable transmission (CVT)
...
The premium EX will have an MSRP of $27,500, and adds a navigation system, Vehicle Stability Assist, Bluetooth HandsFreeLink, alloy wheels, steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters...

De ce ii trebuie paddle shifters daca are CVT?

ticker
16-04-09, 20:57
pai CVT are rapoarte variabile DAAAR are si 6 rapoarte prestabilite si le poti folosi cu padelele...

BogdanRR
16-04-09, 22:28
Este exact cutia de pe vechiul Jazz, CVT cu posibilitatea unor 7 rapoarte simulate. Mi da cat de cat un sentmiment de implicare.

hondatu
17-04-09, 18:46
Bogdane, de pe vechiul Jazz? Pai si actualul Jazz ce are?
Nu de alta dar suna de parca s-a pus o vechitura de cutie pe ea.

BogdanRR
21-04-09, 17:27
Actualul Jazz are i-Shift. Sau mai bine zis, Shtift. In comparatie, CVT-ul e o vechitura in stilul vinului: cu cat e mai veche, cu atat e mai buna.:D

tokyodream
22-04-09, 18:19
All-new 2010 Honda Insight Now On Sale; New Car Buyers Offered Canada's Most Affordable Hybrid !

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/April2009/22/c3992.html (http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/April2009/22/c3992.html)

TORONTO, April 22 /CNW/ - The all-new 2010 Honda Insight hybrid hatchback
goes on sale today across Canada, coinciding with Earth Day. With a
manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) of $23,900, the new Insight is
Canada's most affordable hybrid vehicle.
"The Honda Insight brings fuel-efficient hybrid technology within closer
reach for many new car buyers in Canada with its affordable pricing," said
Jerry Chenkin, executive vice president of Honda Canada Inc. "On Earth Day,
it's important to be mindful of the benefits that hybrid technology can have
in helping to reduce our impact on the environment through fuel efficiency and
ultra-low emissions."
The distinctively styled, 5-passenger, 5-door dedicated hybrid vehicle is
powered by an Integrated Motor Assist(TM) (IMA(TM)) system comprised of a
1.3-litre i-VTEC(R) gasoline engine and a 10-kilowatt electric motor that
together contribute to a Transport Canada fuel economy rating of 4.8 L/100 km
(city) and 4.5 L/100 km (highway). The Insight features the Ecological Drive
Assist System (Eco Assist(TM)), an innovation that can further enhance
efficient vehicle operation while providing feedback related to individual
driving styles.
A sleek exterior blends design elements from the original 2000 Insight's
highly aerodynamic side profile with a front-end design similar to the
hydrogen-powered FCX Clarity, a marquee environmental product for Honda. The
interior offers a roomy passenger environment with a configurable rear seating
and cargo area that benefits from 60/40 split fold-down seats.
A 4-cylinder engine with intelligent variable valve timing and a DC
brushless electric motor forms the foundation of the IMA(TM) hybrid system.
The electric motor, positioned in-line between the engine and the
transmission, adds power during acceleration and in certain cruising
situations, and recaptures energy from the vehicle's forward momentum during
braking.
The Insight introduces Eco Assist(TM) to help drivers achieve improved
real-world fuel economy. Eco Assist(TM) is a feature designed to help drivers
optimize fuel efficiency for their given set of driving conditions. Pressing a
dash-mounted ECON button can further enhance the efficiency of multiple
vehicle systems, including throttle control, CVT operation, idle-stop
duration, air conditioning and cruise-control operation.
Eco Assist(TM) also provides feedback about driving style via a
3D-appearing background within the speedometer. The background changes colours
from blue to green to reflect how efficiently or inefficiently the driver is
accelerating or braking. The driver's results are continuously tracked as fuel
economy ratings are shown per drive cycle and on a lifetime basis in the form
of plant-leaf graphics that appear in the Multi-Information Display (MID). Up
to five leaves can be 'earned' as the driver demonstrates a fuel-efficient
driving style. A real-time score is shown in the Eco Guide MID screen.

Honda Canada, now in its 40th year of operation in Canada, manufactures
the Honda Civic sedan and coupe, and the Acura CSX and MDX at its two plants
in Alliston, Ontario, and produces fuel-efficient 4-cylinder engines at its
engine plant adjacent to the Honda manufacturing facilities.

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mandrei83
25-04-09, 13:08
A aparut si lista de preturi pt Insight in Ungaria: 4.007.500HUF fara TVA pt modelul Comfort si 4.549.167HUF fara TVA pt Elegance. Tradus in EUR la cursul de astazi:
-16.335EUR cu TVA inclus - Comfort (dotari de baza)
-18.543EUR cu TVA inclus - Elegance (dotari full)

Merita sau nu?! La noi sigur va fi peste 20.000EUR varianta Elegance..

tokyodream
25-04-09, 13:09
18.543 EUR cu TVA inclus - Elegance (dotari full) - suna foarte bine :)

mandrei83
25-04-09, 13:28
18.543 EUR cu TVA inclus - Elegance (dotari full) - suna foarte bine :)

Daca stai sa analizezi oferta de la vecini, Civic-ul 5D 1.8 M/T + vopsea metalizata costa 15.775EUR/17.136EUR in dotare Sport/Executive. Diferenta intre aceste doua modele sunt doar farurile Xenon cu spalator, clima bi-zone si geamul panoramic cu cortina actionata electric.

Oare merita Insigt-ul acum? :) Cred ca e strict decizie de gust deja, nu cautam neaparat sportivitate, dar imi doresc si putina economie la combustibil, ce e drept..

Ce am in plus pe Civic-ul 5D Sport fata de Insight Comfort sunt:
-senzori parcare spate
-senzori presiune pneuri
-display 3D optitron
-torpedou iluminat si refrigerat
-tempomat

Diferenta de bani: 15.775EUR (cu vopseaua metalizata incluse) fata de 16.335EUR (fara vopseaua metalizata inclusa si dotarile de mai sus).

Faptul ca e hibrida mi se pare deja un moft (nu iti recuperezi repede banii pe investitie din pct asta de vedere), dar cui nu-i place design-ul 5D poate alege Insight..

De luat in considerare si un Prius SH din Germania, 2006 incoace, 90.000Km, navigatie Toyota (deci fara Romania :D ), pret aproximativ 13500-14500EUR


Voi ce parere aveti?

BogdanRR
25-04-09, 17:16
Pana in momentul testarii sa vad ce stie si la capitolul eco si cum se aseaza la drum, teoretic, pt cat de masina e in general, nu prea merita. Ideea era sa-l faca semnificativ mai ieftin decat Civic Hybrid, nu doar 1-2000 E. Pana la proba contrarie, vazand toate preturile astea, chiar mi se pare ca nu merita. Se poate, insa profita de prima de poluare oferita de tarile vestice la achizita unui hibrid, care variaza intre 1500 si 5000 euro (Italia, parca).

mandrei83
25-04-09, 18:07
Pana la proba contrarie, vazand toate preturile astea, chiar mi se pare ca nu merita. Se poate, insa profita de prima de poluare oferita de tarile vestice la achizita unui hibrid, care variaza intre 1500 si 5000 euro (Italia, parca).

Prima de casare nu se da decat daca ai cetatenie italiana si, intr-adevar, pretul ajunge undeva la 15.000EUR, dar pentru varianta Comfort.. :) Comfort la unguri e pretul zis de mine, iar diferenta nu e semnificativa..

Eu cred ca o sa raman pe un Civic 5D 2009 1.8 Sport, facelift 2009, chiar ofera multe pt banii aceia.. :)

Voua cum vi se pare alegerea?

MGG
29-04-09, 13:14
Pentru nostalgicii care mergeau de 23 Aug la ridicat cartonase colorate pe stadioane :)

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tokyodream
01-05-09, 17:35
YouTube - Honda Insight 2009 — Gig (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRKvDBZrf4I)

tokyodream
02-05-09, 06:31
Test Drive: 2010 Honda Insight LX !


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North Vancouver, British Columbia - Honda’s first hybrid car, the two-seater Insight introduced here in 1999, still holds the record for the best (Energuide government certified) fuel economy in a production car in North America: 3.9 L/100 km City, 3.3 L/100 km Highway. The problem was, as a small two-seater hatchback, it wasn’t very practical, so Honda didn’t sell very many of them.
Honda introduced a hybrid version of the Civic sedan in 2003, and updated it in 2006. It was, and is, a five-passenger compact sedan with current fuel economy numbers of 4.7 L/100 km City, 4.3 L/100 km Highway – still very good for a small car. But the Honda Civic Hybrid is virtually indistinguishable from the regular Civic sedan and hybrid buyers looking for a practical and unique hybrid car turned their attention to the distinctive Toyota Prius.
Honda set about designing a dedicated five-passenger hybrid like the Prius, but rather than competing directly, they designed a smaller hybrid hatchback with a lower price point: the new Honda Insight. Starting under $25,000, the Insight is more affordable than most hybrids.
Some observers see the Insight as a competitor to the Prius, but having driven both, I don’t think so: the 2010 Prius is bigger, roomier, more powerful, and has a different kind of hybrid system that allows it run on electric power alone at city speeds – the new Insight doesn’t do that. In its favour, the smaller Insight is less expensive, more manoeuvrable and sportier to drive. The Insight is more of an “entry-level” hybrid while the Prius is a “mid-level” hybrid.

Pricing and standard equipment:

2010 Honda Insights, already on sale, come in two trim levels, LX ($23,900) and EX ($27,500). Standard equipment on base models includes a 1.3-litre four-cylinder engine, electric motor/generator, continuously variable transmission, nickel-metal hydride battery pack, 15-inch steel wheels, automatic climate control, power windows, power locks with keyless entry, tilt and telescopic wheel, CD/MP3 stereo with four speakers and auxiliary input, and 60/40 split-folding rear seatbacks. The base Insight is not available with electronic stability control, Bluetooth hands-free phone, or navigation system. It also doesn’t have a block heater or a rear cargo privacy cover, but they can be ordered as accessories for $214 and $244 respectively.
The better-equipped Insight EX adds 15-inch alloy wheels, stability control and traction control, Bluetooth connectivity, satellite-linked navigation system, cargo cover, wheel-mounted shifter paddles, side mirrors with integrated turn signals, centre armrest with concealed storage, rear seatback pockets, passenger vanity mirror, glove compartment light, map lights, six speakers, steering wheel-mounted audio controls, and USB connector.

Improved hybrid system:

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2010 Honda Insight LX. Click image to enlarge

Now in its fifth generation, Honda’s hybrid powertrain consists of a 1.3-litre SOHC, eight-valve i-VTEC four-cylinder engine with Variable Cylinder Management (VCM) which deactivates the cylinders under deceleration to save fuel; a 10-Kilowatt electric motor sandwiched between the engine and transmission that contributes up to 13 hp (10 kilowatts) at 1,500 rpm and 58 lb-ft. of torque at 1,000 rpm to the powertrain and acts as a starter motor and generator; a continuously variable transmission; and a Nickel Metal Hydride (Ni-MH) battery pack and electronic controller and cooling unit.

The Ni-MH battery system is comprised of 84 individual “D sized” 1.2 volt cells for a total output of 100.8 volts. Compared to the fourth-generation battery technology in the Civic Hybrid, power output is 30 per cent higher, allowing for a decrease in size and a reduction in weight by 28 per cent.
The combined power of the gasoline engine and electric motor amounts to 98 hp at 5,800 r.p.m. and 123 lb-ft of torque at 1,000 to 1,500 r.p.m. When decelerating, braking or coasting, the starter/generator charges the battery.

The base Insight LX’s estimated combined fuel consumption is 4.7 L/100 km, (4.8/4.5 city/hwy) while the Insight EX offers 4.8 L/100 km (5.0/4.6 city/hwy), probably because it is a bit heavier.
The 2010 Prius beats the Insight, at least as far as official figures go, with 3.7/4.0 city/hwy. That’s mainly due to the fact that the Prius has a more powerful 650-volt battery and can run on electric power alone at low speeds and while cruising or coasting. The Insight can run on battery power alone in the 40 km/h range on a flat surface, but the Insight’s hybrid system is not really designed for electric-only operation.
To save gas while idling, both the Prius and Insight have an “auto stop” feature that turns off the engine while stopped, assuming the battery is sufficiently charged.
Even though the Insight has a smaller 40-litre fuel tank than most cars, its miserly fuel economy still gives it a decent maximum driving range of 640 kilometres.
The Insight qualifies as a Partial Zero Emissions vehicle in California, and passes Tier 2, BIN 3 standards in Canada.

Eco Assist and ECON mode:

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2010 Honda Insight LX. Click image to enlarge

Whether they like it or not, Insight drivers receive feedback on their driving behaviour from the Insight’s instrument panel: a green glow around the digital speedometer indicates fuel-efficient driving while a blue glow indicates that more fuel is being used than is required (in other words, you’ve got a lead foot).
As well, a digital display in the tachometer includes an Eco Guide where the number of ‘leaves’ displayed indicates the level of the driver’s “environmentally responsible driving performance”. In addition, a horizontal bar graph extends to the left or right when accelerating or decelerating to indicate fuel-efficient driving. Shorter bars mean efficient driving; longer bars mean “Back off gas-hog!”
When the engine is turned off, ‘leaves’ in the top of the display tell how the driver has scored as does a horizontal bar in the lower part of the display that indicates cumulative performance.

To help earn more leaves, the Insight has a pushbutton ECON mode which improves fuel economy by limiting power and torque by about four per cent (except at wide-open throttle); engaging the idle-stop feature sooner; operating the air conditioning more in recirculation mode; and reducing automatic climate control blower fan speed.
I’m not sure if this feedback system is more than a novelty that will soon wear off, but like a video game, it’s fun to see how well you can score. My thoughts are that drivers might try harder if the rewards were better – instead of leaves, imagine an image that pops up on the display saying “You’ve just won a new set of tires!”

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tokyodream
02-05-09, 06:33
Driving impressions:

After about 100 km of primarily urban driving, my display showed a rather disappointing 7.1 L/100 km, and my own calculations worked out to 7.3 L/100 km. As I said this was mostly short urban hops, but in another Insight which I co-drove from Vancouver to Kelowna (500 km) last week as part of Honda’s cross-Canada “Insight into Canada” tour, we achieved about 5.3 L/100 km. So I would guess that a mix of freeway and city driving would average out around 6.5 L/100 km. For comparison, a new 2010 Prius I drove last month averaged between 5 and 6 L/100 km in combined city/hwy driving.
Over the years, I’ve discovered that hybrid fuel consumption does vary widely according to driving styles and the weather, so perhaps the onboard feedback displays in the Insight (and Prius) will encourage hybrid drivers to modify their driving habits.
The Insight is sportier and more nimble than the Prius, with responsive steering, a tight turning circle, and a firm but well damped ride that feels solid but makes a thumping sound over pavement cracks and potholes. The position of the battery and other hybrid components beneath the rear cargo area helps lower the car’s centre of gravity, and combined with an independent front suspension and torsion beam rear suspension and Dunlop SP 175/65R15-inch all-season tires, the Insight offers crisp handling with minimal lean, though not as sporty as a Civic.

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2010 Honda Insight LX (bottom photo by Paul Williams). Click image to enlarge

The Insight accelerates briskly and the engine is surprisingly quiet while cruising - at a steady 100 km/h on level ground, I recorded an engine speed of 2,100 r.p.m. However, accelerating up long hills, the CVT maintains a constant engine speed which makes the engine drone all the way up the hill. The CVT has an “S” (Sport) mode which revs the engine higher for improved throttle responsiveness, and in EX models with steering wheel shift paddles, the Sport mode (S) remains in the selected gear until the driver changes it manually.
When stopped at a traffic light or when moving very slowly, the engine turns off – indicated by a flashing green light in the instrument cluster. It automatically restarts as the driver lifts their foot off the brake pedal. The Insight’s brakes are front disc/rear drums with standard anti-lock – rear discs are not offered.

For safety, the Insight features an energy-absorbing hood, fenders, and break-away wiper mounts designed to minimize injuries to pedestrians. As well, the car is designed for crashes with taller vehicles. Inside are standard front, side and curtain airbags, five head restraints, active front head restraints, rear door child locks and rear child seat anchors and tethers.

Interior impressions:

The Insight is shorter, lower and narrower than a Prius with a smaller passenger volume of 2407 litres (vs 2718 litres), but a slightly larger cargo volume of 891 litres with the rear seats folded. There’s room for two large suitcases behind the rear seats, and four or five with the rear seats folded down.
Front headroom and legroom is fairly spacious but tall rear passengers will find limited headroom and just adequate legroom. I also found the sloping roofline above the rear door to be very low when getting in and out, making it possible to strike your head (I know it’s possible, because I did it!).

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2010 Honda Insight LX. Click image to enlarge

The driver has a height adjustable seat and a tilt/telescoping steering wheel and the front seats have generous side bolsters for support. A two-tiered instrument cluster similar to the Civic’s includes a digital speedometer on top of the dash and a tachometer located in the conventional position viewed through the steering wheel. There’s also an Assist/Charge indicator, digital information display, and fuel gauge.
Using a button on the steering wheel, the driver can toggle between different digital displays such as average fuel consumption and fuel economy history, hybrid powertrain display, Eco Guide, average speed, and driving range. This white-on-black display in the tachometer is easy to read.
The separate heating/air conditioning controls just to the right of steering wheel are easy to reach and include a small illuminated display for temperature, ventilation, and fan speed. A large round dial adjusts temperature, recirculation, defrost, heated mirrors and defroster.
The centre stack includes a radio with illuminated display, CD player, and auxiliary input jack - I didn’t like the black piano finish around the radio as it attracts dust like a magnet.

Storage options are numerous: just below the radio is a small covered bin for phones or music players, and below that an open bin with 12 volt outlet. The floor console includes two open bins and two cupholders, and there is an open coin tray near the driver’s door. The LX model does not have a centre armrest and storage bin but the EX does.
The rear window has a handy wiper and washer, and there is a vertical rear window to aid when reversing into a parking spot. Three rear head restraints lie flush with seat tops so as not to interfere with driver’s rear vision. However, I found the thick C-pillar obstructs visibility when shoulder-checking.
The rear hatch extends down to the bumper, so it has a low liftover height, and the cargo area is very roomy, aided by the 60/40 folding seatbacks which can be flopped down with one lever. The floor and seatbacks are carpeted but the side walls are plastic. Underneath the cargo floor is a handy storage area around the spare tire.
Verdict
The new Honda Insight Hybrid combines an affordable price with good fuel economy, a practical five-passenger hatchback body style and surprisingly sporty driving dynamics for a hybrid. Instrumentation designed to motivate drivers to driver more efficiently may or may not work.

Pricing: 2010 Honda Insight LX

Base price: $23,900
Options: None
A/C tax: $100
Freight: $1,310
Price as tested: $25,310




Greg Wilson is a Vancouver-based automotive journalist and editor of CanadianDriver. He is a member of the Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC).

tokyodream
09-05-09, 11:43
New Honda Insight ups the ante !


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Offers excellent fuel economy and close to zero emissions

Alan McPhee,

Published: Thursday, May 07, 2009

The original Honda Insight!

(2000 - 2006) was the first hybrid offered in North America, but while the two-seat, sub-compact hybrid was technically advanced it was just too small to hack it as a family hauler.
With the 2010, second generation Insight, Honda has upped the ante with a legitimate compact-sized,



five-seat sedan that drives and handles like a conventional car while providing exceptional fuel economy. And with an emission rating of AT-PZEV (Advanced Technology -- Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle) it is almost as "clean" as an all-electric zero emissions vehicle.

Built on a slightly shorter wheelbase than the Civic, the Insight's design borrows heavily from Honda's FCX Clarity fuel cell concept vehicle, featuring a steeply raked nose and windshield -- like the Honda Fit -- a rising waistline and a sharply chopped off rear end.
This particular "Kammback" feature is becoming characteristic of many hybrids and goes back to the early 1930s. A noted German aerodynamicist, Wunibald Kamm, discovered through wind tunnel experiments that there was a point where you could abruptly cut off the tapered tail without losing the aerodynamic benefits of a complete teardrop shape. It became a popular design cue in the seventies (AMC Gremlin for one) but nobody was particularly interested in improving fuel economy in those days and it went out of style. Expect to see more of it.
The 2010 Insight comes in two models, the LX starting at $23,900 and the EX at $27,500. Our tester was the latter, finished in Crystal Black with Grey cloth interior. Both front bucket seats with active head restraints, are manually adjustable (with driver's seat height adjuster) and there's a full complement of power features including dual, heated power outside mirrors with integrated turn signals, power windows and door locks, tilt/telescoping steering wheel with fingertip controls for audio -- including Bluetooth hands-free link - and cruise operation. Automatic Climate Control and Keyless Remote Entry are standard.
The six-speaker stereo system includes AM/FM/CD and MP3/ Windows Media Audio (WMA) playback capability. Our tester also came with the Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System with Voice Guidance and Recognition. A digital media jack and USB are also provided.

Ride and handling are typical Honda. Response with the power-assisted rack and pinion steering is immediate with a strong on-centre feel at highway speeds while the independent suspension provides a firm but comfortable ride with minimal body lean in the corners thanks to standard Vehicle Stability Assist and Traction Control. Power-assisted front disc and rear drum brakes with ABS, EBD (4-Wheel Electronic Brake Distribution) and Brake Assist provide confident, fade-free stops. The cabin is quiet at all speeds thanks to the Insight's aerodynamic shape and enclosed underbody plus the quiet operation of the hybrid system. However, the 1.3-litre engine and CVT will let you know they're at work under hard acceleration.
The Insight is powered by a 98-horsepower, 1.3-litre, inline SOHC four-cylinder engine mated to a CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission). The CVT keeps the engine operating in its most efficient range, whatever the road speed. Mounted between the gasoline engine and the CVT is the IMA (Integrated Motor Assist) system. This is a 10 Kw electric motor that can add another 13 horsepower on demand. It is powered by a flat, nickel-metal-hydride battery pack (with an estimated 10-year life) that sits under the rear floor, behind the gas tank. This is a "charge-maintaining" battery constantly being recharged by braking and deceleration.

Moving off from startup, both the gasoline engine and electric motor are deployed. When stopped in traffic, the gasoline engine shuts down automatically while the ancillary services like heater, wipers, audio, etc., are powered by the electric motor. Press the accelerator and the gasoline engine immediately fires and you're on your way. On long flat stretches, as soon as you need passing or climbing power, the gasoline engine joins in seamlessly.

But it's the ECO Assist Coaching System in the Insight that provides the unique driving experience. The two-tier dashboard features a digital speedo display above the main gauges for tachometer, fuel and economy read-out. When you use a heavy right foot the speedo is backlit in a blue arc. Drive more carefully and the arc turns green. It quickly becomes a challenge to stay 'green' as much as possible. To reward your efforts, Honda provides a digital readout on the lower tier that adds up to five leaf-shaped icons on a tree, per trip driven. The more leaves on the tree, the better job you did.
If this sounds like too much effort, just push the green ECO button and the system will automatically adjust acceleration, gearing, air-conditioning and regenerative braking to maximize fuel efficiency. There's also a Multi-Functional Information Display that keeps you informed of instant and average fuel economy, range, outside temperature and trip information. And there's one more driving mode.



If you want to shed your eco character and get somewhere fast, slip the gearshift into S (Sport) for quicker automatic acceleration or use the steering wheel paddle shifters to select the seven pre-programmed gears (EX model) and put your foot down. You won't be in the "green zone" but you'll enjoy the kind of ride and handling that's part of Honda's DNA.

"This is one of the most versatile cars on the market," Says Paul Robson of Nanaimo Honda. "With three driving modes from super economy to sporty performance and a long list of standard equipment, it represents remarkable value as well."
Alan McPhee is a Canadian automotive journalist and is former editor of Carguide Magazine. His articles appear each week in this space.

BOTTOM LINE

Honda Insight EX:

Type: FWD compact hatchback hybrid
Engine: 1.3-litre SOHC I4; 10 Kw electric
Horsepower: 111 (max) @ 5,800 rpm
Torque: 123 lb-ft @ 1,000 - 1,500 rpm
Fuel economy: 5.0 L/100 km; hwy - 4.6 L/100 km
Base price: $27,500
Price as tested: $28,810

-- Vehicle provided by Nanaimo Honda

© Canwest News Service 2009

tokyodream
11-05-09, 18:45
Premiera mondiala: Honda Insight, primul in vanzari in Japonia !


Honda Insight a devenit primul hibrid care reuseste sa se claseze pe locul intai la vanzari pe o piata a lumii. performanta modelului Honda este cu atat mai meritorie cu cat aceasta a avut loc in Japonia.

In luna aprilie, vanzarile lui Insight au atins 10.481 de unitati in Tara Soarelui Rasare, pe locul al doilea clasandu-se de asemenea un model al celor de la Honda, Fit (versiunea japoneza a europeanului Jazz). Fit a fost detronat dupa cateva luni de suprematie, modelul de segment mic al celor de la Honda fiind, de altfel, cel mai bine vandut in anul fiscal 2008-2009.

Luna aprilie aduce astfel o premiera pentru Honda, care are - pentru prima data in istorie - doua modele pe primele locuri in clasamentul vanzarilor interne in Japonia.

Evolutia vanzarilor lui Honda Insight in ultimele trei luni (JAP)

Luna Unitati Insight vandute Pozitia in clasamentul vanzarilor:

Februarie 09 = 4.906 ................10
Martie 09 = 4.088 ....................21
Aprilie 09 = 10.481 ..................1



http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/premiera-mondiala-honda-insight-primul-in-vanzari-in-japonia-20971.html (http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/premiera-mondiala-honda-insight-primul-in-vanzari-in-japonia-20971.html)

tokyodream
16-05-09, 15:36
Our friend electric - Honda Insight 1.3 IMA SE Hybrid 5dr !


http://www.campaignseries.co.uk/cars/wheels/4372098.Our_friend_electric___Honda_Insight_1_3_IM A_SE_Hybrid_5dr/ (http://www.campaignseries.co.uk/cars/wheels/4372098.Our_friend_electric___Honda_Insight_1_3_IM A_SE_Hybrid_5dr/)


IN AN ironic twist, Honda’s latest hybrid takes its name from the car that kick-started the whole experience.
For many the Insight name will be a familiar one, although now there’s room for two in the back. It’s also grown in size.
This Insight is now an altogether more mainstream proposition. If your goal is to convince people to buy into the whole hybrid deal, producing a car with broad appeal built in is always going to be a good start.

And so it is with this second generation Insight. In simple terms it’s a conventional five-door hatch. Being a hybrid, it’s hardly surprising that the Insight retains some of the space age styling of its older relation. The car’s slippery, streamlined profile certainly fits well with Honda’s desire to promote an efficient, futuristic ownership experience.
Following the trend set by the original two-door car plus a couple of Civics in recent years, this Insight is what’s called a mild hybrid. In simple terms the car is powered by the petrol engine, with the electric motor providing assistance when necessary.

While this might sound like a compromise, in reality the decision makes the car more of a practical proposition. To make a car run on battery alone you need big batteries. The downside is increased weight, reduced load and, potentially, cabin space. The Insight’s smaller battery pack and associated electronics allows for a good size boot and family hatch levels of space. And this is why Honda’s is hoping these improvements will broaden the car’s appeal with buyers of conventional vehicles.
And the good news for the buyers is that the Insight behaves in a thoroughly conventional way. For urban driving duties the car is probably one of the better options Đ propulsion method aside Đ thanks to the fitment of a continuously variable transmission. Modern CVT gearboxes are great, labour saving devices and the Insight’s CVT allows you to stick it in Drive and forget about it.

Ease of use is big feature of the Insight, with the car proving to be a doddle to drive in its natural environment: town. A good driving position, good visibility plus light and accurate controls make the chore of driving around town refreshingly pleasant. The car’s supple ride is the icing on the cake, and does a good job of soaking up the all too plentiful urban potholes.
Okay, so the Insight isn’t really a conventional car. The driver is faced with a multicoloured display, with a variety of icons and electronic helpers all geared towards encouraging you to drive frugally. And despite the slightly cartoonish approach, the various aids do make a difference.
Around town you soon get sucked into a more economical way of driving. Accelerating and braking gently, anticipating the road ahead and allowing the car to glide on assisted by the electric motor all become second nature in no time at all. And it’s also not long before you adapt to the car’s stop-start function. Simply pull up to a stop and the engine will shut down, saving valuable fuel. Make a move to the accelerator pedal and it fires back into life without any perceptible delay.

With the combination of a small but eager 1.3-litre, 88bhp petrol engine and an electric motor offering instant thrust from rest, you’d be right to expect a big number for the fuel economy. And 64.2mpg is indeed a big number. Remember, this is for a mix of driving environments and goes some way to proving the worth of the stop-start system around town.
The other magic figure is 101g/km CO2. Yes, it’s not the double digit figure some were expecting or, indeed, achieving with some ultra-clean diesels. But look at it another way; 101g/km is still pretty impressive and the trade off is improved refinement.

At the best of times the Insight delivers a hushed experience, while the stop-start function only serves to highlight how noisy diesels can be when sat next to one at traffic lights. Still want that 99g/km CO2 teeth rattler?
Without wishing to sound patronising the technology driving the Insight is very clever but you don’t really need to know how it works. It’s certainly fast enough for regular duties (0-62mph 12.5 seconds, 113mph top speed) and the economy numbers speak for themselves.
It’s also a practical car, which should make it attractive to families as well as the core eco warrior fan base. That alone is a considerable step forward. If such cars are to be more widely adopted any hint of compromise is a guaranteed deal-breaker. And that’s unlikely to be an issue with Honda’s Insight.

FACTS AT A GLANCE :


Model: Honda Insight 1.3 IMA SE Hybrid 5dr, from Ł15,490 on the road.


Engine: 1.3-litre petrol unit developing 88bhp plus an electric motor.


Transmission: variable speed CVT auto transmission as standard, driving the front wheels.


Performance: Maximum speed 113mph, 0-62mph 12.5 seconds.


Economy: 64.2mpg.


CO2 Rating: 101g/km.

tokyodream
19-05-09, 11:03
Honda Insight Hybrid achieves 74 mpg in tour!

http://autos.canada.com/news/story.html?id=1588553 (http://autos.canada.com/news/story.html?id=1588553)

The Honda Insight Hybrid has achieved a remarkable 74 mpg in a cross-country tour designed to showcase the car's fuel efficiency.

Auto writers from across the country are driving a total of two dozen separate legs during the month-long "Insight Into Canada" journey that began in Victoria, B.C. and ends May 22 at Trans-Canada Highway Mile Marker Zero in St. John's, Nfld.
In its last third of the tour, which left Parliament Hill Monday May 11 en route to Montreal's biosphere, Ottawa writer Paul Williams, who writes for CanadianDriver.com, achieved a fuel economy average of 3.8 L/100km (74 mpg) with a full tank of gasoline.
"I drove at or near the speed limit," Mr. Williams said, "but looked for every opportunity to cruise with power from the electric battery only and the gasoline engine off. The car's Eco Assist system was very helpful in optimizing fuel economy." The 218-kilometre drive included both city and highway driving. The Transport Canada fuel economy rating for the 2010 Honda Insight is 4.5 L/100km (highway) and 4.8 L/100km (city).
The all-new Honda Insight hybrid 5-passenger hatchback went on sale on Earth Day, April 22, with a manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) of $23,900 for the Insight LX. A premium version – Insight EX – is available with an MSRP of $27,500.
The tour began on April 21 when the first Insight to be registered in Canada departed from Trans-Canada Highway Mile Marker Zero in Victoria. For more information, go to www.insightintocanada.ca (http://www.insightintocanada.ca)

BogdanRR
19-05-09, 14:18
http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/jeremy-clarkson-desfiinteaza-honda-insight-monumental-de-proasta-21175.html

Jeremy Clarkson desfiinteaza Honda Insight: "Monumental de proasta"





De Mircea Mester
Publicat Marti, 19.05.2009
Editorialul lui Jeremy Clarkson din The Times subliniaza aversiunea pe care britanicul o are pentru modelele hibride. Noul Honda Insight este facut cu ou si cu otet.
http://static.automarket.ro/img/auto_resized_v2/db/article/021/175/301242l-290x0-w-19bcdf8b.jpg (http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/jeremy-clarkson-desfiinteaza-honda-insight-monumental-de-proasta-21175/galerie-foto-176396.html#photo) zoom (http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/jeremy-clarkson-desfiinteaza-honda-insight-monumental-de-proasta-21175.html#)


Jeremy Clarkson, cunoscutul prezentator al emisiunii britanice Top Gear, desfiinteaza noul Honda Insight intr-un editorial aparut ieri in editia electronica a publicatiei The Times. Vedeta se intrece in epitete negative la adresa modelului japonez, cele mai dure fiind "monumental de proasta" si "cea mai proasta masina noua de pe piata". Evident, in stilu-i caracteristic, Clarkson exagereaza in expunerea parerilor proprii, pentru a genera show.
Clarkson arata ca nu da doi bani pe tehnologiile hibride, "gratuland" noul Insight cu adjective si epitete deloc magulitoare la asdresa modelului japonez. Dupa ce compara modelele hibride cu "foametea, inundatiile, plagile si raurile de sange", sustinand ca acestea sunt cea mai proasta "inventie" din lumea auto recenta, Clarkson incepe un atac sistematic la adresa modelului Honda: "prima masina pe care as lovi-o dinadins de un copac", spune britanicul, continuand cu "scaunele sunt facute special pentru a-ti strica oasele".
Alte opinii ale lui Clarkson despre Honda Insight
"Cea mai mare problema - si mi-a luat ceva timp sa imi dau seama de asta, pentru ca toate celelalte probleme sunt imense si pur si simplu canceroase - este cutia de viteze CVT. Nu functioneaza. Intr-o masina normala, daca apesi acceleratia, turatiile urca in acelasi timp cu viteza. La un CVT, turatiile urca foarte repede, dupa care viteza se chinuie sa le ajunga din urma. Parca ar patina ambreiajul. E oribil."
"Motorul pe benzina de 1.3 litri face mai mult zgomot decat un copil plangacios intr-un avion. E mai rau decat sunetul unei parasute care nu se deschide. E ca si cum ai pune un caine pe aparatul de feliat sunca".
"Cand te gandesti ca nu se poate mai rau, te lovesti pe sosea de o denivelare. Pentru ca singurul scop al celor de la Honda a fost sa faca o masina mai ieftina decat "arogant-mobilul" celor de la Toyota, japonezii au "dezbracat" suspensiile pana la os. Rezultatul este o tinuta de drum care iti ruineaza increderea."
"Insight e mai ieftina cu 3000 de lire fata de Prius. Totusi, in Toyota nu stii ca rulezi intr-o maisna care are doua motoare. Insight iti aminteste constant acest lucru. Nu doar prin plansa de bord idioata, care ilustreaza frunze care cresc intr-un copac atunci cand slabesti pedala de acceleratie, dar si prin zgomot si scaune".
"In Prius, tranzitia electricitate-benzina e subtila. In Honda exista tot felul de bruscari si de sunete ciudate".
"Si toate astea, pentru ce? Evident, poti sa ajungi la un consum de 4 litri sau chiar mai putin, deloc rau pentru un hatchback cu cinci usi foarte spatios. Insa pentru aceiasi bani poti sa ajungi la un Golf diesel, care e chiar si mai econom. Si nu a fost construit pentru a tine costurile in frau."
"Honda a prezentat un tabel care arata ca productia lui Insight este cu foarte putin mai 'devoratoare de energie' decat cea a unui model normal. Nu ii acuz pe cei de la Honda ca spun tampenii, ar fi o idiotenie. Insa nu vad cum o masina care are doua motoare are nevoie de aceeasi cantitate de resurse precum una cu un singur motor".
"Masinile hibride sunt create doar pentru a smulge compasiunea din cei multumiti de sine si din prosti. Nici chiar masinile pur electrice, cum sunt cele ale companiei Tesla, nu functioneaza. Pentru ca au prea multe dezavantaje"
"Paradoxal, Honda a reusit sa rezolve problema resurselor prin cealalta masina ecologica a sa, Clarity. In locul unui motor pe benzina care incarca bateriile celui electric, Clarity utilizeaza unul pe hidrogen: cel mai des intalnit gaz din univers. Singura resursa este apa. Masina e pur si simplu o masina. Si nu e deloc SF: o flota de exemplare Clarity sunt testate in California in acest moment".
via | Timesonline (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/jeremy_clarkson/article6294116.ece?token=null&offset=24&page=3)

BogdanRR
20-05-09, 08:41
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2010-honda-insight/

"[...]While the electric assist makes the Insight feel sufficiently energetic off the line and in casual driving, the more you push, the weaker the engine feels, and the raspier it sounds. (Didn’t Honda used to be known for the most refined small fours?)"
"[...]In turns, the Insight leans less and feels less bobbly than the non-Touring second-generation Prius. But that’s a low hurdle. Compared to conventional compacts, handling is average at best. Despite some reports to the contrary, the Insight is not fun to drive in any conventional sense of the words “drive” or “fun.” The price of mere handling parity? When traversing patchy pavement, the underdamped, overly firm rear suspension gets the jitters and incites tin-can reverb in the cargo area."
"[...]Copycat exterior, cheap interior, uncomfortable seats, cacaphonous engine, nervous ride, competes on price . . . the Honda Insight sounds like a Prius knock-off from China. Except it’s from Honda. What happened to the company that gave us the 1984 Civic?"

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/review-2010-honda-insight-ex/

Achim
22-05-09, 16:13
http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/jeremy-clarkson-desfiinteaza-honda-insight-monumental-de-proasta-21175.html

Jeremy Clarkson desfiinteaza Honda Insight: "Monumental de proasta"





De Mircea Mester
Publicat Marti, 19.05.2009
Editorialul lui Jeremy Clarkson din The Times subliniaza aversiunea pe care britanicul o are pentru modelele hibride. Noul Honda Insight este facut cu ou si cu otet.
http://static.automarket.ro/img/auto_resized_v2/db/article/021/175/301242l-290x0-w-19bcdf8b.jpg (http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/jeremy-clarkson-desfiinteaza-honda-insight-monumental-de-proasta-21175/galerie-foto-176396.html#photo) zoom (http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/jeremy-clarkson-desfiinteaza-honda-insight-monumental-de-proasta-21175.html#)


Jeremy Clarkson, cunoscutul prezentator al emisiunii britanice Top Gear, desfiinteaza noul Honda Insight intr-un editorial aparut ieri in editia electronica a publicatiei The Times. Vedeta se intrece in epitete negative la adresa modelului japonez, cele mai dure fiind "monumental de proasta" si "cea mai proasta masina noua de pe piata". Evident, in stilu-i caracteristic, Clarkson exagereaza in expunerea parerilor proprii, pentru a genera show.
Clarkson arata ca nu da doi bani pe tehnologiile hibride, "gratuland" noul Insight cu adjective si epitete deloc magulitoare la asdresa modelului japonez. Dupa ce compara modelele hibride cu "foametea, inundatiile, plagile si raurile de sange", sustinand ca acestea sunt cea mai proasta "inventie" din lumea auto recenta, Clarkson incepe un atac sistematic la adresa modelului Honda: "prima masina pe care as lovi-o dinadins de un copac", spune britanicul, continuand cu "scaunele sunt facute special pentru a-ti strica oasele".
Alte opinii ale lui Clarkson despre Honda Insight
"Cea mai mare problema - si mi-a luat ceva timp sa imi dau seama de asta, pentru ca toate celelalte probleme sunt imense si pur si simplu canceroase - este cutia de viteze CVT. Nu functioneaza. Intr-o masina normala, daca apesi acceleratia, turatiile urca in acelasi timp cu viteza. La un CVT, turatiile urca foarte repede, dupa care viteza se chinuie sa le ajunga din urma. Parca ar patina ambreiajul. E oribil."
"Motorul pe benzina de 1.3 litri face mai mult zgomot decat un copil plangacios intr-un avion. E mai rau decat sunetul unei parasute care nu se deschide. E ca si cum ai pune un caine pe aparatul de feliat sunca".
"Cand te gandesti ca nu se poate mai rau, te lovesti pe sosea de o denivelare. Pentru ca singurul scop al celor de la Honda a fost sa faca o masina mai ieftina decat "arogant-mobilul" celor de la Toyota, japonezii au "dezbracat" suspensiile pana la os. Rezultatul este o tinuta de drum care iti ruineaza increderea."
"Insight e mai ieftina cu 3000 de lire fata de Prius. Totusi, in Toyota nu stii ca rulezi intr-o maisna care are doua motoare. Insight iti aminteste constant acest lucru. Nu doar prin plansa de bord idioata, care ilustreaza frunze care cresc intr-un copac atunci cand slabesti pedala de acceleratie, dar si prin zgomot si scaune".
"In Prius, tranzitia electricitate-benzina e subtila. In Honda exista tot felul de bruscari si de sunete ciudate".
"Si toate astea, pentru ce? Evident, poti sa ajungi la un consum de 4 litri sau chiar mai putin, deloc rau pentru un hatchback cu cinci usi foarte spatios. Insa pentru aceiasi bani poti sa ajungi la un Golf diesel, care e chiar si mai econom. Si nu a fost construit pentru a tine costurile in frau."
"Honda a prezentat un tabel care arata ca productia lui Insight este cu foarte putin mai 'devoratoare de energie' decat cea a unui model normal. Nu ii acuz pe cei de la Honda ca spun tampenii, ar fi o idiotenie. Insa nu vad cum o masina care are doua motoare are nevoie de aceeasi cantitate de resurse precum una cu un singur motor".
"Masinile hibride sunt create doar pentru a smulge compasiunea din cei multumiti de sine si din prosti. Nici chiar masinile pur electrice, cum sunt cele ale companiei Tesla, nu functioneaza. Pentru ca au prea multe dezavantaje"
"Paradoxal, Honda a reusit sa rezolve problema resurselor prin cealalta masina ecologica a sa, Clarity. In locul unui motor pe benzina care incarca bateriile celui electric, Clarity utilizeaza unul pe hidrogen: cel mai des intalnit gaz din univers. Singura resursa este apa. Masina e pur si simplu o masina. Si nu e deloc SF: o flota de exemplare Clarity sunt testate in California in acest moment".
via | Timesonline (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/jeremy_clarkson/article6294116.ece?token=null&offset=24&page=3)

Honda Insight 1.3 IMA SE Hybrid
By Jeremy Clarkson

Much has been written about the Insight, Honda’s new low-priced hybrid. We’ve been told how much carbon dioxide it produces, how its dashboard encourages frugal driving by glowing green when you’re easy on the throttle and how it is the dawn of all things. The beginning of days.

So far, though, you have not been told what it’s like as a car; as a tool for moving you, your friends and your things from place to place.

So here goes. It’s terrible. Biblically terrible. Possibly the worst new car money can buy. It’s the first car I’ve ever considered crashing into a tree, on purpose, so I didn’t have to drive it any more.

The biggest problem, and it’s taken me a while to work this out, because all the other problems are so vast and so cancerous, is the gearbox. For reasons known only to itself, Honda has fitted the Insight with something called constantly variable transmission (CVT).

It doesn’t work. Put your foot down in a normal car and the revs climb in tandem with the speed. In a CVT car, the revs spool up quickly and then the speed rises to match them. It feels like the clutch is slipping. It feels horrid.

And the sound is worse. The Honda’s petrol engine is a much-shaved, built-for-economy, low-friction 1.3 that, at full chat, makes a noise worse than someone else’s crying baby on an airliner. It’s worse than the sound of your parachute failing to open. Really, to get an idea of how awful it is, you’d have to sit a dog on a ham slicer.

So you’re sitting there with the engine screaming its head off, and your ears bleeding, and you’re doing only 23mph because that’s about the top speed, and you’re thinking things can’t get any worse, and then they do because you run over a small piece of grit.

Because the Honda has two motors, one that runs on petrol and one that runs on batteries, it is more expensive to make than a car that has one. But since the whole point of this car is that it could be sold for less than Toyota’s Smugmobile, the engineers have plainly peeled the suspension components to the bone. The result is a ride that beggars belief.

There’s more. Normally, Hondas feel as though they have been screwed together by eye surgeons. This one, however, feels as if it’s been made from steel so thin, you could read through it. And the seats, finished in pleblon, are designed specifically, it seems, to ruin your skeleton. This is hairy-shirted eco-ism at its very worst.

However, as a result of all this, prices start at Ł15,490 — that’s Ł3,000 or so less than the cost of the Prius. But at least with the Toyota there is no indication that you’re driving a car with two motors. In the Insight you are constantly reminded, not only by the idiotic dashboard, which shows leaves growing on a tree when you ease off the throttle (pass the sick bucket), but by the noise and the ride and the seats. And also by the hybrid system Honda has fitted.

In a Prius the electric motor can, though almost never does, power the car on its own. In the Honda the electric motor is designed to “assist” the petrol engine, providing more get-up-and-go when the need arises. The net result is this: in a Prius the transformation from electricity to petrol is subtle. In the Honda there are all sorts of jerks and clunks.

And for what? For sure, you could get 60 or more mpg if you were careful. And that’s not bad for a spacious five-door hatchback. [Finish reading this article at the Times Online]

tokyodream
29-05-09, 14:02
14.500 euro, varianta ELEGANCE:

http://www.autoscout24.ro/Details.aspx?id=lpgfnvep3wlo (http://www.autoscout24.ro/Details.aspx?id=lpgfnvep3wlo)

mandrei83
29-05-09, 14:19
14.500 euro, varianta ELEGANCE:

http://www.autoscout24.ro/Details.aspx?id=lpgfnvep3wlo

Scrie o chestie in anunt: "IL PREZZO SI INTENDE AL NETTO DEGLI INCENTIVI STATALI PER AUTO ECOLOGICHE E DI ROTTAMAZIONE, ESCLUSO METALLIZZATO E IPT."

Asta inseamna ca pretul acela e pret final, dupa ce iti duci masina veche la REMAT-ul lor, iti da statul vreo 2-3.000EUR pentru asta si inca vreo 2.000EUR pentru ca e hibrida. Cu alte cuvinte, se plica articolele de aici:
-pentru UK: http://ziare-externe.stiriazi.ro/ziare/articol/articol/britanicii-care-si-cumpara-masini-electrice-sau-hibride-vor-primi-pana-la---de-euro-insa-abia-peste-doi-ani/sumar-articol/927378/
-pentru Italia: http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/5000-de-euro-bonus-in-italia-la-cumpararea-unui-hibrid-honda-insight-18625.html - exact ce ai zis tu, doar ca pretul final nu e pentru romani, ci pt italieni
-taxe in Europa: http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/analiza-taxele-auto-din-romania-vs-taxele-auto-din-europa-19939.html
-pentru Romania: discount pt hibride = 0!

Deci, Insight costa in Italia pentru un cetatean roman 20.000EUR. Priusul meu din 2007, dotare Executive, 33.000Km cu sistem ne navigatie, bluetooth si sistem audio JBL m-a costat exact cat ai zis tu. De noua, masina costa 30.000EUR..

Nu merita Insight, in situatia de fata..

tokyodream
29-05-09, 15:15
la Remat Italia, daca iei un hybrid nou ai reducere 5.000 euro :)

mandrei83
30-05-09, 02:42
la Remat Italia, daca iei un hybrid nou ai reducere 5.000 euro :)
Un coleg italian de-al meu (de la servici, nu lucrez in RO momentan) mi-a zis ca stie de chestia asta, iar oferta e strict pt cetatenii italieni. Cam asa am citit si eu pe un alt articol de pe Internet, plus ca trebuie sa-ti duci si masina veche la REMAT. Insumat, discount-ul e de 5000EUR..

Degeaba, noi n-o sa avem niciodata astfel de oferte, sau cel putin nu in urmatorii ani..:brickwall:

tokyodream
30-05-09, 19:40
Honda Insight -- the Prius fighter !


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/topdown/detail?entry_id=40623 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/topdown/detail?entry_id=40623)

It's like watching two bantamweight prizefighters staring at each other from their opposing corners in the ring.

On the right, ladies and gentlemen, we have the reigning champion,
Toyota Prius, and over here, the challenger, Insight from Honda. May the best hybrid win.
It may well look that way, especially when you realize that these two cars are the only ones in their class. Yes, there are other hybrids -- Honda has a close competitor with its own Civic hybrid -- but there aren't really any others that hew this closely to such similar characteristics.

http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/topdown/2009/05/24/HONDAINSIGHT2REAR499x311.jpg American Honda Motor Co.
The 2010 Honda Insight's rear view -- competition for Toyota's Prius

Perhaps the best way to see it is to simply look at both cars: the second-generation Prius (2004-2009) was a brilliant piece of design, not because it's a pretty car (in my view, it's not), but because it's unique. One of the reasons it sold so well is because of just that -- it didn't look like just another Toyota that had been stuffed with a hybrid power train. It looked like a Prius. Its owner was saying, "look! I bought a Prius."
And when you look at that car, what stands out is that rear liftgate, horizontally split rear window design. Few cars have hatchbacks these days -- I'm not talking, here, of SUVs or the like -- and so the Prius had something others didn't. But that rear window treatment did it -- one piece of glass on the top part of the liftgate, the other mounted vertically, below the tailgate's support member.

Now check the 2010 Honda Insight: same thing, virtually the same design. It says, in effect, this is a design unique to small hybrids.
Beyond that, the Insight is markedly different from the Prius in the way its hybrid system works. Honda uses "Integrated Motor Assist," or IMA, in which the 1.3-liter, 98-horsepower gasoline-driven engine is working in concert with the 13-horse electric motor. Toyota uses separate gas and electric power plants.
What this means in real life is that when you're driving the Insight it sounds like a normal car because the gas engine is on most of the time. (It switches off at a stop.)

Most drivers, however, will be more concerned with how the car performs and how much (or how many) it holds. In performance, it goes and feels like a cross between Honda's Fit (the Insight is on a modified Fit platform) and a Civic. It has that small-car-itis, a little bouncy, with that buzzy four-banger noise you get when the car is laboring uphill. It's quick enough to keep with traffic, of course, but it's not velvety smooth and powerful like, say, an Acura V6.
But no Acura is going to have the kind of spacey infographics and feedback to see how well you're dealing with the gas crunch. The Insight has a backlit digital speedometer: when you're driving light as a feather, just barely touching the gas pedal, the light glows green. Step down and goes to an angry blue-green, like a nascent bruise. Mash down and goes right to blue, like the nastiest of bruises.

All of this works in concert with the Ecological Drive Assist Program (EcoAssist) (http://automobiles.honda.com/insight-hybrid/fuel-efficiency.aspx). Push in the green (what else?) ECON button on the dashboard and the car's power train changes its thought patterns to give you better mileage. On a display panel is a tree to which leaves are added as you drive more prudently. It rewards you.
Where the Insight excels is in the use of space: hatchbacks are great because once you lift up that yawning tailgate you realize that you can stuff a very large box in there without much trouble. Most cars' trunks are hamstrung by fairly narrow openings, all this dictated by stylists who want a gracefully flowing rear of the car. With the back seats folded, the Insight will hold nearly 60 cubic feet of stuff. With the seats up, it will take five people, but the three in the rear better be very good friends.
Back to the rivalry: both the Prius and the Insight are in that fiercely competitive low-$20,000 range. Clearly, Insight was made to by Honda's answer to Prius, down to the pricing schedule. What Honda has going for it, however, is that it manages to keep the price fairly low, while Toyota sells you a car at a comparable price, but loads it up with extras.
The Insight comes in two models: the LX stripper, with a base price of $19,800, while the EX, with paddle shifters, center console armrest, steering wheel controls and other doo-dads, is $21,300 ($23,100 with navigation.) By contrast, Toyota's Prius, with five 2010 models, starts at $22,000 and goes up to more than $27,000. But this car, the third-generation Prius, also gets up to 50 mpg. (Take that, Honda.)

Clearly, it's a conundrum. Frankly, I err on the side of Honda, mostly as a personal thing -- I just liked the way the car felt and drove, and I thought its design was better looking than the Prius.
Ultimately, in this square-off it's the consumer who wins. So try them both and decide for yourself.

SPECIFICATIONS:

2010 Honda Insight hybrid, front-wheel-drive 5-door hatchback sedan
Price: test model, $23,770; (base price: $23,100)
Power train: 1.3-liter, in-line 4-cylinder, 98-horsepower gasoline engine; 13-horsepower electric motor; continuously variable transmission
Curb weight: 2,734 pounds.
Seating capacity: five

Fuel consumption: 40, city; 43, highway.
Fuel tank capacity: 10.6 gallons.
Length: 172.3 inches; width, 66.7 inches; height: 56.2 inches; wheelbase: 100.4 inches.

Warranty:Bumper-To-Bumper, 3 years/36,000 miles; power train, 5 years/60,000 miles; corrosion, 5 years/unlimited miles; hybrid parts, 8 years/80,000 miles.

Dependability: Honda ranks 10th out of 37 brands (above industry average) on the J.D. Power and Associates 2009 Vehicle Dependability Study (http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2009043).
Safety: for vehicle safety ratings, visit the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (http://www.iihs.org/ratings/default.aspx) and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (http://www.safercar.gov/).
Source: American Honda Motor Co.; (http://www.honda.com/)U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/)

http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/topdown/2009/05/24/HONDAINSIGHTEXT3499x311.jpg American Honda Motor Co.
The new Honda Insight.

tokyodream
03-06-09, 08:56
Detroit Free Press Reviews 2010 Honda Insight, Gives It 2 out of 4 Stars !

http://www.allcarselectric.com/review/1021176_detroit-free-press-reviews-2010-honda-insight-gives-it-2-out-of-4-stars (http://www.allcarselectric.com/review/1021176_detroit-free-press-reviews-2010-honda-insight-gives-it-2-out-of-4-stars)

The Honda (http://www.thecarconnection.com/make/honda) Insight, the original hybrid (http://www.fordreports.com/category/hybrid,new) vehicle to hit the roads years ago is all new, but is it much improved.
The previous Insight had its problems, marred by a stiff ride, pronounced road noise, and only two seats just to name a few. But back then Honda (http://www.thecarconnection.com/make/honda) was entering new waters. Now hybrids (http://www.lexusreports.com/category/hybrid,new) are commonplace and surely you can't go wrong with a Honda (http://www.thecarconnection.com/make/honda). Or can you?
Initial reviews of the new Honda (http://www.allminivans.com/make/honda,new) Insight are in and many reviewers don't take too favorably to the new car. Over at the Detroit Free Press, car reviewer Mark Phelan had a chance to drive the vehicle and present his thoughts, and the review is to say the least, negative.
Phelan gives the Insight only 2 out of 4 stars, resulting in a "competent" rating and far below Honda's (http://www.allcarselectric.com/make/honda,new) average of 4 stars by Phelan. So what gives? What has Honda (http://www.thecarconnection.com/make/honda) done wrong?
Price cutting has been referred to by many as the problem with the Insight. In order to keep prices low, Honda (http://www.allsmallcars.com/make/honda,new) cut back in many areas and this has hurt the overall vehicle review. According to Phelan, furthering the problem with the Insight is the lack of mpg's. It simply doesn't live up to its numbers and doesn't live up to other dedicated hybrids (http://www.porschereports.com/category/hybrid,new) on the road today.
According to the reviewer, the new Insight's biggest drawback would be its poor fuel economy numbers for a hybrid (http://www.benzconnection.com/category/hybrid,new). As Phelan said, "In fact, the new Insight doesn't even match the fuel economy of Honda's (http://www.thecarconnection.com/make/honda) own bigger and more powerful Civic hybrid (http://www.familycarguide.com/overview/honda_civic-hybrid_2008). The cars mechanical systems including its hybrid (http://www.cadillacreports.com/category/hybrid,new) powertrain are significantly different and some would say less advanced than the Prius.
He goes on to state many other negative about the vehicle including several that can be linked to the cost cutting measures taken on the car. As Phelan states, "Limited power and a spacious but threadbare interior further weaken the Insight's appeal, despite sporty handling and the lowest price tag of any hybrid (http://www.luxurycarreport.com/category/hybrid,new) on the market."
Not all is bad though. As Phelan notes the high points of price, hybrid (http://www.gmcreports.com/category/hybrid,new) looks and interior space as reason to buy the vehicle, but again concludes that its shortcomings including lack of power, interior fit, and poor fuel economy for a hybrid (http://www.toyotamonitor.com/category/hybrid,new) results in the low 2 star overall ratng.
As additional reviews of the new Insight crop up, we will surely bring you more insightful information about the new hybrid (http://www.hondareports.com/category/hybrid,new) from Honda (http://www.greencarreports.com/make/honda,new).

Overall rating for this car:

7.4 out of 10

7 Styling
9 Performance
7 Comfort and Quality
8 Safety
6 Features
Source: Detroit Free Press Print Edition

BogdanRR
04-06-09, 16:02
http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/toyota-prius-cel-mai-vandut-model-in-japonia-in-luna-mai-21677.html

Din pacate, asa cum ma asteptam, entuziasmul s-a diminuat rapid. A venit "nasul" la acelasi pret cu generatia veche si cu o tehnologie superioara si s-a instalat frumos pe primul loc. Pe 2 vine Jazz, si de-abia pe 3 se aseaza Insight. Asa se intampla cand te bagi pe teritoriul cuiva mai batran si experimentat, ti-o furi. Deja Toyota si-a facut norma anuala cu Prius, are peste 100.000 comenzi ferme si numarul lor e in crestere. Iar faptul ca in State sosirea Insight-ului a provocat CRESTEREA vanzarilor de Civic Hybrid (?!) spune foarte multe. Din ce povesteau dealeriide acolo, oamenii au venit curiosi sa vada modelul nou, s-au uitat si la pret, au cam strambat din nas la raportul calitate-pret-eficienta si au ales Civic Hybrid pentru ca ofera o calitate net superioara, se pare ca si consum mai mic sau cel putin acelasi (in unele teste), comfort superior, toate la o diferenta de pret suportabila. Raman la parerea ca, asa cum a fost construit, Insight tb sa aiba un nivel de preturi global undeva intre 14.000 si 17.000 Euro, prin urmare intre Jazz/Fit si Civic, nivel la care Toyota nu avea cum sa concureze. Acum, daca vin cu varianta hibrid a lui Jazz (iarasi o decizie ciudata), asa cum anuntau si o pun la pretul asta, se pot pregati pentru cioplit crucea Insight-ului, si uite asa se va alege praful de inca unul din proiectele marete ale lui Fukui. Uneori nu-i suficient sa copiezi un format consacrat de altul, fie el si inventat de tine (ma refer la forma). Ma intreb ce urmeaza...o generatie noua de Civic cu exact aceeasi platforma si doar cu o caroserie schimbata? N-ar fi exclus. Opel o face, Ford o face, Mazda o face, mai toata lumea o face, de ce nu si Honda?

mandrei83
04-06-09, 16:26
[/URL][URL]http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/toyota-prius-cel-mai-vandut-model-in-japonia-in-luna-mai-21677.html (http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/toyota-prius-cel-mai-vandut-model-in-japonia-in-luna-mai-21677.html)

Din pacate, asa cum ma asteptam, entuziasmul s-a diminuat rapid. A venit "nasul" la acelasi pret cu generatia veche si cu o tehnologie superioara si s-a instalat frumos pe primul loc.
...

Si eu ma uitasem intr-o vreme dupa Insight, ma gandeam la achizitionarea acestei masini, dar mi-a pierit tot entuziasmul cand am vazut ce lux e in Civic-ul hibrid si ce ai in Insight, iar diferenta de pret e infima.. Pretul ambelor masini e oricum ridicat, meritand doar achizitia la mana a doua (dupa parerea mea).

Alta chestie.. comparand preturile din Ungaria, dotarea Insight Comfort costa 17800EUR, iar Elegance 19900EUR... pe cand Civic-ul hibrid costa 19600EUR. As alege oricand Civic-ul hibrid in fata Insight-ului, daca ar fi sa aleg intre cele doua modele..

In final, am ales Prius, si nu regret investitia asta deloc. Sunt multe avantaje in favoarea Prius, comparat cu Insight.. La Insight au redus costul masinii, dar asta s-a simtit si in calitatea masinii din pacate..

BogdanRR
04-06-09, 16:32
Mda...
Am uitat sa mentionez ca unii dealeri americani deja reclama ca au inceput sa ramana cu Insight-uri pe stoc, iar vanzarile pe luna mai au totalizat doar 2780 bucati, in conditiile in care galonul de benzina a inceput usor sa urce iar peste 3 dolari, ceea ce ar fi trebuit sa dea din nou startul la hibride. Vedem ce-o fi pe iunie...
Daca tot au batut moneda pe pret si nu neaparat pe eficienta/tehnologie, ar fi trebui sa faca cumva sa merite diferenta.
Anticipez un nou boom de cerere pentru Fit in curand.

mandrei83
04-06-09, 16:50
Cam nasol moment pt americani.. si destul de aiurea moment sa vinzi masina (cu criza asta financiara). Sa asteptam Jazz-ul hybrid la anul viitor, sa vedem ce e cu el.

Ultima data am vazut scriindu-se de Jazz-ul hybrid pe Internet la sfarsitul anului trecut, iar anul asta pauza.. Tu ai mai gasit ceva articole legat de data lansarii/detalii tehnice/poze etc?

Dacian
04-06-09, 16:56
Automarket, 27 mai 2009.

tokyodream
04-06-09, 19:48
http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/honda-lanseaza-anul-viitor-jazz-hybrid-21468.html (http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/honda-lanseaza-anul-viitor-jazz-hybrid-21468.html)

Arunca un ochi la PRESA.................se munceste rau acolo :)

tokyodream
19-06-09, 18:43
Honda Insight hailed as green car champion !

http://autonews.gasgoo.com/auto-news/1010965/Honda-Insight-hailed-as-green-car-champion.html (http://autonews.gasgoo.com/auto-news/1010965/Honda-Insight-hailed-as-green-car-champion.html)

From:Transport BriefingJune 19, 2009

Honda's Insight, a new family-sized hybrid car that is already providing stiff competition for the ubiquitous Toyota Prius, has been named Green Car of the Year 2009 by the Environmental Transport Association in the UK.
The least green car was found to be the 8-litre Dodge SRT-10 sports car which, if driven for a year, was said to emit the same amount of carbon dioxide absorbed by 322 mature trees - the equivalent of an acre of oak forest.
The Environmental Transport Association examined more than 1,300 models of car currently on sale in Britain and compared their power, emissions, fuel efficiency and the amount of noise they produce to create a guide to buying the greenest vehicle.
In the supermini category the Toyota Yaris 1.4 D-4-D 6-speed came top with the Renault Clio Renaultsport 200 languishing at the bottom. The Honda Insight 1.3 IMA ES (pictured) won the small family car sector with Volkswagen's Golf R32 4Motion bringing up the rear. The Ford S-Max 1.8 Duratorq TDCi was rated the most environmentally friendly small MPV with the Mercedes R-Class R63 AMG losing out in this category.
Andrew Davis, director at the Environmental Transport Association, said: "The discrepancy between the greenest and the least green cars in Britain today is striking, but the market is changing and a combination of consumer pressure alongside government leadership will result in an increasing choice of environmentally-sound cars."
He said the popularity of large 4x4s such as the Porsche Cayenne, which is said to be many times more damaging to the environment than for example a BMW 320d, winner in the large family car category, is falling. This trend is being encouraged by the new emissions-based road tax charges which mean owners of high polluting cars pay over Ł400 per year for Vehicle Excise Duty.
Despite diesel models doing well in the survey because of their lower average CO2 emissions, the ETA points out that diesel fumes can trigger a "stress response" in the brain, putting people in urban areas particularly at risk. But it says the advent of diesel particulate filters, such as those fitted to some of the category winners, herald a dramatic improvement in the environmental rating of diesels. DPFs are said to remove all traces of soot from exhaust gases.

tokyodream
26-06-09, 10:24
Lower cost separates Honda's Insight, Toyota's Prius !

http://detnews.com/article/20090625/OPINION03/906250339/1148/Lower-cost-separates-Honda-s-Insight--Toyota-s-Prius (http://detnews.com/article/20090625/OPINION03/906250339/1148/Lower-cost-separates-Honda-s-Insight--Toyota-s-Prius)

The 2010 Honda Insight is that other hybrid.
Sure, there are actually more hybrids on the road than just the 2010 Honda Insight and the 2010 Toyota Prius, but these two hold billing for the Battle Royale of the originals. The Insight arrived a decade ago, then left the U.S. in search of a backseat, while the Prius grew to become the iconic hybrid of America. So the comparison between Honda's newest family member and Toyota's third-generation hybrid seems natural.
But don't be fooled by similar wedged-shaped vehicles. They are not the same, neither are their customers.
Both Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co. say the two cars won't compete against each other as much as many experts predict -- suggesting "experts" can be wrong. In my expert opinion, I agree.


The Prius, which costs more and is larger, will attract one crowd. The Insight will attract another, apparently a more frugal and thinner group. They should, really; these cars are as different as Southern California and the rest of the Golden State -- at least everywhere north of the Grapevine.
The Insight and Prius may take different roads, but they end up in similar places, providing much of the same things: Excellent gas mileage, low emissions and a well-made daily driver.
But now come the differences: The Insight, which uses a different type of hybrid system, known as parallel hybrid powertrain, lets its electric motor assist its little 1.3-liter inline four-cylinder engine, instead of providing "electric only" drive at school zone speeds.
The combined powertrain provides 98 horsepower and 123 pound-feet of torque, which is enough to hit 80 mph, but not much beyond that.
Mated to a continuously variable transmission, the Insight can feel underpowered at times, especially on the highway. The transmission, which doesn't have traditional gears, can whine at very high rpms when accelerating quickly. Once you reach a cruising speed, it calms down and provides a better-sounding ride. There are paddle shifters mounted on the steering wheel, which can help a driver improve the car's pickup but can also make the engine scream like a toddler.
Insight at best in city:

During a week of testing, the light-weight Insight (it tips the scales at 2,700 pounds) was tossed around on the highway during windy days. It may drive well, but I see trouble, or at least a lot of spilled coffee, if the gales of November come early.
While the highway experience in the Insight was less than memorable, the little compact excelled in city driving. The MacPherson strut front suspension and H-shaped torsion beam rear suspension and the Insight's low center of gravity (due to its short stature and low placement of the battery pack) help it bite into corners.
The electric power assisted rack-and-pinion steering feels well weighted and exact. The idea behind electric power steering is to remove stress on the engine and, in some cases, carmakers sacrifice a nicely centered feel at the wheel for saving energy. Honda, however, doesn't sacrifice anything in the car's feel on the road.
Its diminutive size (it only stands 52.6 inches tall and couldn't ride on half the coasters at Cedar Point) helps the Insight feel more like the Honda Fit than a hybrid.
Most important to the Insight's performance is its fuel economy. The Insight has impressive EPA-rated numbers, averaging 40 miles per gallon in the city and 43 mpg on the highway. During my week of testing, which included a lot of highway time, I averaged 42 mpg overall.
Honda has included a few features to help drivers maintain better gas mileage. The most noticeable one is the changing background on the digital speedometer. The more efficient you drive, the greener the background. When your foot finds a little lead in your shoe, a much more judgmental blue appears. All of these devices are part of Honda's Eco Assist system.
Push the Econ button on the dash and the car's programming will focus strictly on more efficient driving. The car will look for more ways to provide you with better gas mileage. It will operate the air conditioning on recirculation mode. It will attempt to use its engine shut-off at idle more often. It will limit power and torque by up to 4 percent, as well as optimize the transmission and throttle for more efficient performance. Instead of passively providing a light on the dash to let a driver know when he's driving efficiently (or not), the Insight actually makes changes to the car's performance.
Eco features galore:

Like most hybrids, the Insight also provides regenerative braking, which takes energy once lost in the form of heat and turns that into electricity, which it sends back to its nickel metal hydride batteries. Recycling is good, and these brakes feel good, too.
The Insight's Eco Guide (Honda seems to suffer from the same affliction as Ford Motor Co. and cannot help but randomly place the prefix "eco" in front of other words) provides instant and long-term feedback on the driver's performance. It will track the current driving habits as well as reward the driver digital leaves as his or her driving improves over time. The virtual plants provide bragging rights for the owner, but there is no known nutritional value.
With so many eco features on the Insight, it's no wonder the dash feels busier than a kudzu forest. The digital speedometer above the instrument cluster is a bonus feature that takes a little adjusting to. I prefer analog gauges. I don't need to know I'm doing 53 mph when 50-ish seems to be enough for me. This also provides plausible deniability for any state trooper questions such as, "Do you know how fast you were going back there?"
While the dash seems overdone with silver plastic trim, the rest of the interior is very comfortable and well-crafted. The front seats are nicely bolstered and the second row, which can fold down in two sections and provides enough space to fit two adults comfortably and three adults in a jam. The 60/40 folding second row also provides 31.5 cubic feet of open storage.
The Insight comes with lots of driver-friendly features, including a tilting/telescoping steering wheel -- an often overlooked necessity on a compact car. Amenities include a 160-watt four-speaker stereo (which has an auxiliary input jack and USB slot for connecting your iPod), an optional navigation system, Bluetooth connectivity and climate control.
For a compact car with a sticker price under $20,000, the Insight is nicely appointed.
And that's the biggest difference between the Insight and the Prius: Cost. The Insight tops out at $23,770, including shipping charges. The Prius starts at $22,750 and can top $32,000 fully loaded. Toyota plans to introduce a stripped down Prius this fall with a $21,000 price tag, just in case there is some cross shopping between the two hybrids.
The Insight is the most affordable hybrid around, and that's a difference that will catch a lot of people's attention who once aspired for that other hybrid.
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2010 Honda Insight:

Type: Five-passenger, gas-electric compact hybrid
Price: $19,800*
Engine: 1.3-liter inline four-cylinder engine with 10 kilowatt electric motor
Transmission: Continuously variable transmission
Power: 98 horsepower, 123 pound-feet torque
EPA gas mileage: 40 mpg city / 43 mpg highway
*Does not include $670 shipping
Source: Kelley Blue Book and Honda Motor Co.
Report Card:

Overall: ★★★
Exterior: Good. Wedge shape and little wheels give the Insight a clean, modern look but nothing original.
Interior: Excellent. Dual tier instrument panel easy to read, quality materials and nice layout combine form and function.
Performance: Good. Fun to drive around town with spirited pickup and excellent handling characteristics. But slightly underpowered engine and light body works against the Insight on the highway, where it feels less stable than traditional gas-only compacts.
Safety: Excellent. Electronic stability control, crumple zones and full set of air bags.
Pros: High overall mileage and low price make this a nice daily driver.
Cons: Gets tossed around on windy days and engine feels underpowered.
Grading scale :
HHHH Excellent HHH Good HH Fair H Poor

Achim
26-06-09, 23:19
nu stiu daca a aparut sau nu la noi, dar eu taman am parcat la hotel in Eforie Nord si in localitatea Lazu, la iesirea din Cta am trecut pe langa un Insight albastru cu numere rosii si colantat cu Insight Hybrid ;)

tokyodream
27-06-09, 07:18
domnul Heimann tocmai testeaza una bucata Insight :)
amanunte.....................curand !



http://www.leaderpost.com/Cars/Holy+hybrid+comparo+Fusion+Insight+Prius+face/1731885/story.html

Holy hybrid comparo! Fusion, Insight, Prius face off!



Surprise winner!


Kingston, Ont.:

Few will argue Toyota is the benchmark automaker for driving green. Its hybrid system is a technology the rest of the industry has been chasing for more than a decade. For much of that period, Toyota’s status as the green leader has been largely unchallenged. True, the Jetsons-style, two-seater Insight from Honda did give hybrid buyers an early option, but Toyota’s Prius was the clear choice for most. In fact, the company has sold more than a million of these gas sippers.
More recently, however, hybrid choices have grown, with several automakers going green, either developing their own systems or buying the technology from Toyota. There’s no doubt the competition has heated up and consumers now have an array of hybrid models from compact sedans to luxury SUVs and trucks to consider. The prime segment, however, is family sedans, and this is why I’m looking at a trio of 2010 contenders — the Ford Fusion Hybrid, Honda Insight and Toyota Prius.


Toyota Prius: Not typically a company that gets caught looking, Toyota has responded to the increased hybrid competition with an all-new Prius, which has just hit the streets. This third-generation model moves the industry standard to a new level by delivering more room, more power, better fuel efficiency, plus innovative new features to attract buyers.
Visually, the new Prius has been restyled while still retaining the exterior design so familiar to consumers. The roof’s hump has been shifted rearward, creating more rear-seat headroom in the cabin. In fact, the interior is roomier overall, resolving a common complaint about the previous generation.
The car’s exterior has been shaped and moulded to slip through the air and its 0.25 drag co-efficient is the best of any mass-produced vehicle in the world. That aerodynamic slipperiness also helps minimize wind noise at highway speeds.
The gas/electric Hybrid Synergy Drive system has been reworked, with a new, larger 1.8-litre four-cylinder combining with the electric motor to produce 134 net horsepower — a 22% increase over last year’s model. It’s also 7% more fuel efficient than previous models, with a city rating of 3.7 litres per 100 kilometres and 4.0 L/100 km on the highway. That makes it the most fuel efficient of this trio.
Pricing starts at $27,500 for the base Prius, with four option packages that can boost the final sticker price to $36,565. One of the upgrades includes a solar-panel roof that powers a fan to discharge hot air while the car is parked, reducing the load on the air conditioner once the car is started.


Honda Insight: The Insight has also started from a clean slate — an all-new product that in many ways mimics the Prius, at least the 2009 iteration.
However, its overall size is smaller than the Prius, with an interior volume is 85 cubic feet, compared with the Prius at 93.7.
The Insight uses a less complex Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) hybrid system.
Unlike the Prius and Fusion, the electric motor, positioned in line between the 1.3L gas engine and transmission, “assists” during acceleration and highway cruising, and its capacity to operate exclusively on electric power is more limited. However, it does feature cylinder deactivation during deceleration, and the gas engine stops when the car is stationary. Its fuel consumption rating is 4.8 L/100 km in city driving, 4.5 on the highway.
The Insight’s big advantage is affordability. It’s the least expensive hybrid on the market, with a starting price of $23,900 for the base LX edition, $3,600 below the Prius. An upgraded premium model, the EX, lists at $27,500 and includes a navigation system with voice recognition.
It’s also more fun to drive, with steering that has more feedback than the Prius’s and its handling characteristics have a more sporty flair. It cannot, however, match the Prius’s seamless transition between gas and electric modes — the noticeable shudder when the Insight’s gas engine stops and starts can become annoying.


Ford Fusion Hybrid: The Fusion is Ford’s response to the Japanese challenge, developing its own full-hybrid powertrain and then tucking it inside its popular mid-sized sedan. The company prefers to compare its Fusion Hybrid to Toyota’s other mid-sized sedan entry, the Camry Hybrid, which actually outsells the Prius in Canada. (In the first four months of sales this year, the Camry claimed 22% of the national hybrid market share while Prius was second with 18%.)
The Fusion Hybrid is the largest of this trio with an interior volume of 100.3 cu. ft. It also has the most horsepower (191) and is a bit more thirsty than the Prius, consuming 4.6 L/100 km in the city and 5.4 L/100 km on the highway.
Like the Prius’s engine, the Fusion’s 2.5L four-cylinder is set up to operate on the more efficient Atkinson cycle. As with the other two hybrids, it delivers its power to the front wheels through a continuously variable transmission (CVT).
The Fusion Hybrid’s ride and handling are comparable to its gas-powered siblings — quiet, comfortable and stable.
Pricing starts at $31,999, with an array of upgrades available, including leather seat trim ($1,225), voice-activated navigation system ($2,100) and Sony audio system ($400).


Bottom line: Choosing which hybrid best suits your needs depends on your priorities. If you are intent on making a statement, such as letting your neighbours know you’re a cool, tech-savvy person who cares about the environment and wants the world to know it, then the Prius or Insight are the only options. Both are distinct, conveying a message that you dare to be different. If, however, you simply want a conventional-looking sedan with plenty of room, but still want to save money at the pump while doing your part for the environment, go for the Fusion.


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tokyodream
29-06-09, 15:04
2010 Honda Insight EX Hybrid goes 100 km on five bucks !

http://www.canadaeast.com/rss/article/709324 (http://www.canadaeast.com/rss/article/709324)


"Is that one of those hybrids?" the guy next to me at the gas station asked as I topped off the Honda Insight's tank.

"Yes, it is" I replied. He inspected the cars awkwardly-shaped body for a moment, one lip half curled. After a moment's pause, he commented "I'd never buy one of those". "Why's that?" I asked. "They're all weird" was his response.
He was referring to the relative unfamiliarity hybrid cars pose for the majority of the car-buying public. Hybrids are popular in their own small circles-- but a relatively tough sell to the majority of shoppers who don't know what they do, how they work, or what they'll be like ten years down the road. Despite all the good intentions, hybrids haven't exactly been flying off dealer lots.
Somewhere beneath Insight's odd shape and promise of eco-minded driving is an attempt to change that. It seeks to do away with many of the stigmas surrounding hybrid cars, and is accordingly clever, un-compromised and relatively affordable. Priced from under $24,000, rumor has it that the Insight's pricetag made a few folks at Toyota scratch their heads. For its second iteration, Insight's mileage and performance are up, and the compromise factor is way down.
Get-up-and-go is on par with most small four-cylinder cars, thanks to the four-cylinder gas engine that's hooked up with a torque electric motor system for enhanced power delivery. All power is generated on board, and there's no need to plug Insight in.
The interior is accommodating and offers more than adequate space-- though it does tighten up quickly with 5 people on board. Like goodies? The loaded $27,500 Insight EX tester included navigation, automatic climate control, Bluetooth, steering-wheel mounted audio controls, voice-command and more. That's enough to satisfy the atmospherically-minded techie any day of the week.
There's no hit in the safety department either. Side and curtain airbags are standard across the Insight range, alongside advanced antilock brakes and active head restraints. The tester even included a stability control system.
Long story short, it seems that Honda's worked hard to create a hybrid that should even appeal to skeptical shoppers. It's barely different than any other small, upscale car-- except for the looks. It's function over form here: a giant victory for aerodynamics over style.
Insight's cabin is bright, airy and very energetic. Entry and exit are easy, controls are mainly simple to find and use, and there are gobs of storage in the form of compartments and cubby-holes.
Multiple power outlets and covered compartments complete the package, and the hatchback body style lends itself to easy handling of numerous jobs. Visibility is good, albeit out the rear hatchback where the split-window design blocks some of the view.
The instrument cluster is the cabin's most striking element. A slew of high-tech indicators are included, and the whole things lights up like the console of a shuttlecraft from Star Trek at night.
There's also a multi-function digital display to track, among other things, your digital alfalfa garden. This grows or dies off at the hands of your driving habits, which Insight tries to guide via a color-changing light ring around the HUD-style speedometer.
In gentle driving, it stays green. Push too hard, and it turns turquoise or blue. Not long thereafter, your digi-sprouts will start to die off as if you watered them with professional-grade Round-Up. Careful and patient manipulation of the throttle is vital to playing the Insight's green driving game.
I'm no hyper-miler, nor am I typically willing to frustrate other traffic by accelerating as slowly as possible. Even still, fuel consumption averaged 5.7L / 100km on my 1,200 km test drive. This figure came relatively effortlessly, though it left room for improvement compared to the 4.7L / 100km figure Honda advertises for the car.
Put simply, Insight drivers can expect to go 100 km on five bucks worth of gas--or less. Even if you've got a lead foot, you'll still wind up with mileage better than most conventional small cars. Of course, if you're considering a hybrid, chances are that you haven't got a lead foot.
Proud Insight owners will be taking to the internet to post their fuel consumption figures in the near future-- so consult with them if mileage maximization is your sole reason for owning an Insight. Of course, if you're just after a fuel-efficient and upscale small car, you'll probably like it too.
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BogdanRR
01-07-09, 09:55
Nasol moment:

Consumer Reports lambasts Honda Insight, ranks it 21 out of 22 vehicles tested (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/06/30/i-consumer-reports-i-lambasts-honda-insight-ranks-it-21-out/)

Calling it "the most disappointing Honda Consumer Reports has tested in a long time," America's most influential product testing magazine has given extremely poor marks to the Japanese automaker's new Insight hybrid.

In a verdict that reminds us of a certain Jeremy Clarkson review (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/18/jeremy-clarkson-calls-honda-insight-biblically-terrible/) (albeit more kindly worded), Consumer Reports blasted the gas-electric hatchback for its "ride quality, handling, interior noise, acceleration, rear-seat, access, and visibility," consigning the hapless Honda to a 21 out of 22 ranking among other small hatchbacks and wagons. Tallying a road test score of 54 points, it was trailed only by the widely panned Dodge Caliber, which managed just 49 points.

Despite the fact that it won't receive a much-coveted CR "Recommended" nod, the Insight still managed to post a "Good" overall road test score (largely on the strength of its 38 miles-per-gallon as-tested fuel economy). Regardless, it was comprehensively beaten by both the Volkswagen Jetta Wagon and the Hyundai Elantra Touring, which scored 80 and 79 points, respectively.

The Insight was the only vehicle in CR's test group to not to be Recommended, save Kia's Soul, which was excluded because the organization hasn't compiled any reliability data on the vehicle yet. Check out the press release after the jump.

PRESS RELEASE:

CR's engineers say Insight's 38 mpg overall fuel economy is one of its few highs

YONKERS, N.Y., June 29 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The new Honda Insight posted a lackluster "Good" overall road-test score in Consumer Reports' testing for the August issue. The Insight achieved an excellent 38 mpg overall in CR's tests but fell short in ride quality, handling, interior noise, acceleration, rear-seat, access and visibility.

"The Insight is the most disappointing Honda Consumer Reports has tested in a long time," said David Champion, senior director of CR's Auto Test Center. "The Insight is a noisy, stiff-riding car with clumsy handling that is nothing like the Fit on which it is based. Also, Electronic Stability Control is only available on the highline EX version."

In a ratings chart of small hatchbacks and wagons, the Insight was rated 21st out of 22 vehicles, with a road test score of 54 points. It was followed by the Dodge Caliber, which scored 49.

Two new wagons, spin-offs of popular sedans -- the Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen and Hyundai Elantra Touring scored within a point of each other and received Very Good ratings, 80 and 79 respectively.

The Sportwagen, a new addition to the Jetta line, combines sound driving dynamics and more cargo and versatility than the sedan. It also imparts the feeling of a much more expensive vehicle. The Elantra Touring, also an extension to its line, is an affordable and practical vehicle with good fuel economy (26 mpg in CR's own fuel economy tests.)

Consumer Reports tested a total of six wagons and hatchbacks in the August issue including the improved Chevrolet HHR and the Pontiac Vibe (the virtual twin of the Toyota Matrix.) The Vibe will be discontinued this August given GM's decision to discontinue the Pontiac brand. Both the Vibe and the HHR received Very Good ratings. The test group also included the sporty Mazda3 hatchback, freshened with a new four-cylinder engine and new styling was also rated Very Good.

Prices ranged from $19,085 for the Pontiac to $24,730 for the Chevy HHR. All vehicles in the test proved to have average of better reliability in CR.

Consumer Reports also tested the Kia Soul. The Soul shares several of the same attributes of the small, boxy Scion xB, and was also rated Very Good. This is a new model so CR does not have any reliability data and cannot Recommend the Soul.

All vehicles in the test group are Recommended by Consumer Reports except for the Insight, which scored too low in CR's tests to be Recommended and the Soul, which does not have any reliability data yet. CR only Recommends vehicles that have performed well in its tests, have at least average predicted reliability based on CR's Annual Car Reliability Survey of its more than seven million print and web subscribers, and performed at least adequately if crash-tested or included in a government rollover test.

Full tests and ratings of the test group appear in the August issue of Consumer Reports, which goes on sale June 30. The reports are also available to subscribers of www.ConsumerReports.org (http://www.ConsumerReports.org).

The Honda Insight seats five and gets excellent fuel economy, but it's a noisy car with a stiff ride and clumsy handling. At its cornering limits, the Insight plows straight ahead early on in tight turns and the tail can slide out too quickly for stability control to completely prevent it. The Insight EX, ($21,790 Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price as tested), is powered by a 1.3-liter four-cylinder engine with a 13-hp electric motor combine for 98 hp that delivers 38 mpg overall. The continuously variable transmission performs smoothly. Unlike a full hybrid, the Insight requires the gas engine to turn whenever the car is moving. Braking is Very Good. Cargo space behind the rear seats is adequate.

The wagon version of the Volkswagen Jetta combines good driving dynamics and versatility with excellent fit and finish. The Jetta SE, ($24,324, MSRP as tested), is powered by a 170-hp, 2.5-liter, five-cylinder engine that delivers average performance but got only 23 mpg overall in CR's fuel economy tests. The six-speed automatic transmission shifts smoothly and has a manual-override feature. Braking is Very Good. The cargo area is very spacious and you can fold down one or both sections of the rear seatbacks.

The Elantra Touring wagon is fairly roomy and versatile, with a nicely finished interior and lots of amenities for the money. The Touring's ride is noticeably stiffer than the sedan's ride, with some sharp impacts. The Elantra Touring wagon, ($19,475, MSRP as tested), is powered by a 138-hp, 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine that delivers average performance and a respectable 26-mpg overall. The four-speed automatic transmission shifts smoothly and responsively. Braking is Excellent. Folding down the 60/40 seatback makes for a fairly commodious load volume.

The Mazda3 has been one of CR's top-scoring small cars for several years, distinguished by agile handling and a good-quality interior that is laid out well. The Mazda3 had a firm, compliant ride that provided good isolation from everyday road bumps. The Mazda3 s Sport, ($20,700, MSRP as tested), is powered by a 167-hp, 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine that feels smooth and refined and delivers 25 mpg overall in mixed driving. The five-speed automatic transmission shifts quickly and smoothly. Braking is Very Good. Cargo space is good behind the rear seats, and when the seatbacks are lowered the hatch encloses a good-sized cargo area.

The Pontiac Vibe is versatile, fuel-efficient, and reasonably priced. The Vibe's ride is compliant but not very steady and bumps create side-to-side rocking and even the highway ride can feel choppy. The Pontiac Vibe 1.8L, ($19,085, MSRP as tested), is powered by a 132-hp, 1.8-liter 4-cylinder engine that provides good performance and 24 mpg overall. The four-speed automatic transmission shifts smoothly. Braking is Very Good. The rear is quite spacious. The cargo area is lined with hard plastic and small items slide around on it.

The Chevrolet HHR plays to 1950s design nostalgia but one drawback to its retro styling is the small and short windows, which inhibit the view out. Bumps are absorbed quite well, but the deep ruts and ridges come through as rubbery kicks. The Chevrolet HHR LT, ($24,730 MSRP), as tested is powered by a 172-hp, 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine that provides good performance and 24 mpg overall. The four-speed automatic transmission shifts smoothly. Braking is Very Good. The seatbacks fold down for generous cargo space.

With more than 7 million print and online subscribers, Consumer Reports is one of the most trusted sources for information and advice on consumer products and services. It conducts the most comprehensive auto-test program of any U.S. publication or Web site; the magazine's auto experts have decades of experience in driving, testing, and reporting on cars. To become a subscriber, consumers can call 1-800-234-1645. Information and articles from the magazine can be accessed online at www.ConsumerReports.org (http://www.ConsumerReports.org).

tokyodream
01-07-09, 10:29
EVENIMENTE/STIRI

Primul test cu HONDA Hybrid Insight (http://www.automobiletv.ro/event.php?id=309#)

Am parcurs 247,9 km pe traseul Bucuresti Palatul Parlamentului - Baraj Maneciu ( Prahova ) si retur. In Bucuresti am parcurs 12,4 km la ora de varf. Rezultatele sunt:

(30 Iunie 2009)
http://www.automobiletv.ro/events/309.jpg Modelul Honda Insight este echipat cu un motor din aliaj de aluminiu de 1339 cm3, SOHC i-VTEC P max= 88 CP la 5800 rot/min, cuplul maxim fiind de 121 Nm la 4500 rot/min.. Motorul este cuplat la o cutie de viteza cu transmisie continua variabila - CVT. Sistemul IMA include un motor electric avand 14 CP, un revolutionar grup de acumulatori, si un sistem compact de gestiune electronica IPU (Intelligent Power Unit) – fiind capabil sa acumuleze energia cinetica a vehiculului pe durata franarii si decelerarii, furnizand putere suplimentara motorului termic atunci cand este necesar. Ansamblul ultra-compact al acumulatorilor si al unitatii de gestiune electronica (IPU) este pozitionat pe podeaua portbagajului, facand posibila rabatarea banchetelor spate 60/40, devenind astfel un hibrid cu un volum util marit. Am testat acest hybrid pe un traseu mixt ( oras si drum national ). Am pornit de langa Palatul Parlamentului din Bucuresti, am traversat Bucurestiul ajungand pe DN1. Inanite de Ploiesti am ales ruta prin Valenii de Munte pentru a ajunge la barajul Maneciu. Distanta dus-intors a fost de 247,9 km , consumul citit pe calculator la intoarcerea in Bucuresti fiind de 5,9 l/100 km. La intoarcere in dreptul aeroportului Baneasa am setat calculatorul la zero pe pozitia B si am citit datele la sosire. Distanta prin Bucuresti a fost de 12,4 km iar consumul de 10,0 l/100 km. In general putem spune ca Insight ne-a lasat o impresie buna cu toate ca ne asteptam la un consum mai mic, mai ales pe traseul din oras. In timpul testului am observat ca tractiunea este asigurata de motorul pe benzina ca.35% din totalul distantei parcurse, de motorul electri ca. 5 % si de ambele motoare ca. 60%. Ne-a placut directia, tinuta de drum pe sosea si materialul deosebit folosit la tapiteria scaunelor. Suspensia este setata pentru drumuri foarte bune si putin cam deranjanta la trecerea peste denivelari. Portbagajul este incapator, am transportat fara probleme un geamantan mare si trei genti cu aparatura. Ramane de vazut daca pretul care va fi de 19.500 - 20.500 Euro va atrage un numar important de cumparatori.


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Parcurs prin Bucuresti, 12,4 km, consum mediu pe acest traseu: 10,0 L/100 km
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Pe un parcurs mixt( Bucuresti si DN )de 247,9 km consumul mediu a fost de 5,9 l/100 km
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O situatie foarte rar intalnita in timpul testului: acumulatorii se incarca fara ca motorul termic sa functioneze.

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Propulsia este combinata: motor termic si motor electric
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Propulsie asigurata numai de motorul electric ( numai la viteze constante)

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Propulsie asigurata numai de motorul termic.

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Punctul terminus al traseului nostru: barajul de la Maneciu ( Prahova ).
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tokyodream
02-07-09, 13:30
Hybrid Car Wars: Honda Insight Vs. Ford Fusion Hybrid (http://jalopnik.com/5301463/hybrid-car-wars-honda-insight-vs-ford-fusion-hybrid) !


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The 2010 Toyota Prius (http://jalopnik.com/5182950/2010-toyota-prius-first-drive) is tops in fuel economy. But what if that's not your only motivating factor? Maybe the 2010 Honda Insight (http://jalopnik.com/5128524/2010-honda-insight-first-drive) or the 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid (http://jalopnik.com/5107120/2010-ford-fusion-hybrid-first-drive)'s what you're looking for. But which is better? Let's find out.
Seriously, we've driven all three and the new Prius makes these two cars look bad when it comes to fuel economy. Now a mid-size, it rivals the Fusion for space, practicality and driving dynamics, and starting at $21,000 it even gets close to the Insight on price. It does this all while boasting a 50 MPG combined fuel efficiency figure, something both its two main competitors can't get anywhere near. Having said that, we realize not everyone wants to risk looking like a whiny eco-celeb just to save some money on gas. So what about the other two choices? Let's find out. Yes friends, it's time for the Hybrid Car Wars (http://jalopnik.com/tag/hybrid-car-wars/).
As with our Muscle Car Wars comparison (http://jalopnik.com/5302090/muscle-car-wars-camaro-vs-challenger-vs-mustang) last week, we'll keep the game simple — add up the stars and the car at the end wins. Let's play.

Hybrid Car Wars


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Exterior Design:


Insight: ***

Captures mainstream America's idea of a "hybrid" in a compact, appealing, well-detailed package. Unfortunately, this grey looks terrible in photos next to the Fusion's bright blue. View the Insight in person and the dumpiness in the rear 3/4 view isn't as apparent as it is in photos, mostly because the whole thing's just 4 1/2 feet tall.

Fusion Hybrid: ****

The 2010 Ford Fusion is probably the most handsome mid-size sedan on sale and the Hybrid's no different. Solid proportions, neat details and a shiny grille make it look more expensive than its $27,270 price tag.

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Interior Design:

Insight: ***

The interior doesn't feel as tight as it actually is thanks to a high ceiling and airy glass house. All the materials are cheap, but pull off the traditional Honda trick of looking good, being easy to use and feeling as if they'll last a long time. The sloping rear limits your ability to haul large items and the back seat is cramped. Not as practical as the cheaper Honda Fit.

Fusion Hybrid: ***

Very spec-sensitive. Check the box for leather and Nav and things are positively fancy, the fabric seats and Nav-less dash much less so. The rest is utterly conventional, if relatively roomy.

Acceleration:

Insight: *

With a 0-60 time of 11-ish seconds, acceleration isn't the Insight's strong point. You can keep up with traffic, but you have to work hard to do so. The raucous sound and the CVT's constant revs makes the Insight feel slower than it is.

Fusion Hybrid: ***

Strong acceleration adds to the Fusion Hybrid's conventional driving experience. 0-60 MPH takes about 8.5 seconds, meaning you can actually overtake other cars, especially Honda Insights.

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Braking:

Honda Insight (http://jalopnik.com/tag/honda-insight/): ***

Where earlier hybrids had wooden brake pedals thanks to undeveloped regenerative braking systems, the Insight's is totally conventional to use. The soft suspension dives significantly, which can be a bit alarming since the brakes aren't immensely powerful.

Fusion Hybrid ****

What all hybrid brakes should be like, strong but easily modulated. That enables delicate brake use for batter charging at all possible opportunities.

Ride:

Insight: *

Very harsh, yet also wobbly. It's like normal suspension in reverse; small bumps are met with harsh response, while large ones send the Insight bouncing along like a Jello mold.

Fusion Hybrid: ****

Feels like a much more expensive car, the ride is cushy yet controlled, isolating occupants from all sorts of bad surfaces.

Handling:

Insight: **

This, more than anything else, defines the Insight's character. Objectively, the handling is pathetic, feeling overwhelmed as it yaws alarmingly through everyday challenges like highway off ramps and around minor corners. Having said that, it's fun, involving and challenging to try and hustle something with such low limits, turning every commute into an adventure. Think worn out ‘80s hatchback, but with stability control and you won't be far off.

Fusion Hybrid: ***

Like the regular Fusion, the Hybrid is a competent handler, if not all that involving. Try pushing things and you're met with terminal understeer, but its limits of adhesion, unlike the Insight, lie beyond the realm of the everyday.

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Gearbox:

Insight: *

As intrusive and annoying as a CVT could possibly be, it's strangely fitted with a "Sport" mode and wheel-mounted paddles that don't do an awful lot beyond raising the cabin's already loud noise level.

Fusion Hybrid: ***

In contrast, the Fusion's CVT is utterly unremarkable. You'll never notice it once you put it in "Drive."

Audio:

Insight: **

The optional 6-speaker 160-watt audio system incorporated into the Nav unit is easy to use, but sounds tinny. It adds to all the noise coming from the road and engine rather than drowning those out.

Fusion Hybrid: ***

The base stereo is weak and the LCD interface isn't great. Start ticking options and you can get a really good Sony 12-speaker system and Sirius radio.

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Toys:

Insight: ****

Well, the whole car kind of feels like a toy, but is also comes with a seriously informative set of gauges that enable drivers to understand how to drive efficiently. The speedometer, which hovers in your peripheral vision, glows dark green when you're behaving and fades to dark blue when you're not. That's much more immediate than Ford's system. Add to that the Gameboy graphics that give you ridiculous medals for fuel-efficient driving and an "Eco" button that smooths out the peaks and troughs of power input to boost efficiency and frugal drivers have all the tools they need to save money.

Fusion Hybrid: *****

If you think the Insight's got some cool gauges, you'll be floored by the slick graphics and massive level of information available in the Fusion. Easily the best-looking gauges in the industry, Ford's SmartGauge with EcoGuide system redefines a driver's interaction with the car by showing you how to maximize energy recovery during regenerative braking, enabling you to maintain EV mode up to 47mph with a display showing the amount of throttle available in that mode. There's so much here it can be overwhelming and very distracting, but Ford's thought of that too, allowing you to switch through four levels of information.

Fuel Economy:

Honda Insight: ***

Hit or miss. The EPA numbers are 40 MPG city, 43 MPG highway, 41 MPG combined. We averaged 37 MPG over a week of mostly city driving. Hypermilers can get figures exceeding 60 MPG over mixed routes. So which is it? Sadly, in our hands, the fuel economy just isn't impressive for such a compromised car. Your results may vary.

Fusion Hybrid: ****

We averaged 38.5 MPG over a week of mixed highway and city driving in the Fusion Hybrid. For a relatively large car that's pretty fast and pretty luxurious, that's really good. Official EPA numbers are nearly identical to the Insight's: 41 MPG city, 36 MPG highway, 39 MPG combined, but the record-breaking fuel economy we achieved when we hypermiled the Fusion Hybrid in LA was only 43.8 MPG.

Value:


Honda Insight: ****

It depends on how you look at it. The Insight offers decent fuel economy in an unpractical package resulting in a fairly unimpressive value proposition. At $19,800 it is, however, the cheapest hybrid car on the market, meaning it lowers the barrier of entry into the exciting world of hybrid ownership. Believe it or not, that actually matters to some people. Although we'd stick with the much more practical, better-to-drive 2009 Honda Fit, which starts at $14,750 and manages 27 MPG city and 33 MPG highway, we do have to admit, as far as Hybrids go, this one's got the win.

Fusion Hybrid: **

An impressive car for a reasonable price, but the base-spec Fusion S starts at $19,270 and returns 25 MPG combined. Even though the Fusion Hybrid brings with it all the SEL options, $27,270 creates an $8,000 premium that you'll never make up in fuel savings.

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Overall:

Honda Insight

Average score: 2.5

Living up to every negative hybrid stereotype ever, the Insight asks you to make enormous sacrifices in the driving experience and practicality to achieve fuel mileage that just isn't all that impressive for a car this small. It'd make a pretty decent first car or first new car, but the Fit would make a much better one.

Ford Fusion Hybrid (http://jalopnik.com/tag/ford-fusion-hybrid/)

Average score: 3.5

Ford's Fusion hybrid delivers a spacious, technologically-advanced car asking you to make no sacrifices to achieve similar fuel economy to the Insight. Well, except the price, which is understandably a bit more than its no-batteries brethren. The most complete hybrid we'd driven, well, until we drove the 50 MPG 2010 Toyota Prius, that is.

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mandrei83
02-07-09, 14:33
EVENIMENTE/STIRI

Parcurs prin Bucuresti, 12,4 km, consum mediu pe acest traseu: 10,0 L/100 km
Pe un parcurs mixt( Bucuresti si DN )de 247,9 km consumul mediu a fost de 5,9 l/100 km
O situatie foarte rar intalnita in timpul testului: acumulatorii se incarca fara ca motorul termic sa functioneze.

Propulsia este combinata: motor termic si motor electric

Propulsie asigurata numai de motorul electric ( numai la viteze constante)

Propulsie asigurata numai de motorul termic.



Apropo, vezi ca imi par puse pozele gresit, sunt decalate cu o pozitie (cele care au comentariile de mai sus)..:p

Nu e tocmai o masina economica, daca s-a constatat ca ar consuma 10l/100km in traficul din Bucuresti.. Adica, la 10-12 ajunge consumul unui Civic 5D sau sedan, condus batraneste..:o_o:

Prius consuma in traficul metropolitan cam 5-5.5% condus normal (nu abuziv si cu scartz-uri), poate merge exclusiv pe baterii (full PHEV), asistat de motorul electric sau doar cu motorul pe benzina.



O situatie foarte rar intalnita in timpul testului: acumulatorii se incarca fara ca motorul termic sa functioneze.
De obicei se incarca atunci cand cobori o panta usoara sau cand pui frana, pentru ca preia energia cinetica produsa prin franare.. Asa e si la mine la Prius.


Propulsie asigurata numai de motorul electric ( numai la viteze constante)
La fel.. pana in 50-52Km/h, dupa care porneste si motorul termic. E limitare din ECU-ul hibrid la mine, pt ca au fost indivizi care si-au scos complet motorul termic din Prius, au modificat sistemul hibrid si masina se deplaseaza cu aprox 80Km/h doar pe electric.

Cam scumputa masina pt ce ofera, dar fiind vorba de o solutie mai redusa in buget decat Prius, unii spun ca-si merita banii. Facand o comparatie intre cele doua modele, Prius e mai popular iar tehnologia e mai avansata. Ai si mai multe optiuni intr-un Prius - mai ales Gen 3: panouri solare, sistem navigatie cu harti Navteq (au aparut anul trecut si hartile cu acoperirea in Ro, in sfarsit!), comenzi vocale (pentru bluetooth, climatizarea masinii, tuner FM, magazie CD, sistem amplificare), Lane Assist, Radar Cruise Control Assist, Intelligent Parking Assist (parcare automata, soferul tinand doar piciorul pe pedala de frana) si altele..

Ca design, fiecare poate alege intre cele doua, gusturile sunt subiective. Personal imi place mai mult Insight, dar nici Prius nu e urata deloc.

BogdanRR
03-07-09, 12:05
Consumul asta il scot si cu un Civic Sedan daca nu trag prea tare de el (probabil daca ma gandesc ca e hibrid si trebuie sa merg mai incet cu ea).
Consum mic, nu prea, tehnologie veche de +10 ani, pret cam mare, comportament in general hulit de mai toata lumea...ma chinui sa gasesc un avantaj serios si nu reusesc. Cu asta vrea Honda sa rupa gura targului si sa faca vanzari, cu un simplu exercitiu de marketing? Cam tarziu, caimacul a fost deja luat de Toyota de mult timp. Si macar ei cu ce se lauda.

tokyodream
09-07-09, 20:58
YouTube - Toyota Prius vs Honda Insight - Drag race (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Js1I0829mc&eurl)

BogdanRR
09-07-09, 21:09
Se vede clar cat ce efect are marketingul asupra 'prostimii': "Am vazut multe celebritati conducand Prius pt ca e verde, asa ca aleg Prius". Nici vorba sa te duci sa le compari, mai usor sa gandeasca altii pentru tine. Nici nu-i de mirare ca pacaleala hibrid a prins atat de bine.

_ADN_
10-07-09, 14:46
Daca ar fi sa ignoram pretul, Prius este la ani lumina in fata.
Per total, tot prius.

tokyodream
13-07-09, 11:22
Japanese Honda Insights can compete for best MPG rating, with Snoopy's help (http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/07/08/japanese-honda-insights-can-compete-for-best-mpg-rating-with-sn/) !

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/07/08/japanese-honda-insights-can-compete-for-best-mpg-rating-with-sn/ (http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/07/08/japanese-honda-insights-can-compete-for-best-mpg-rating-with-sn/)

If you buy a new Honda Insight with the optional HDD InterNavi System in Japan, Honda has a special offer for you: an optional telematics device that updates to the web - automatically, natch - your hypermiling results (we have experience writing down our scores by hand (http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/06/08/trying-out-the-new-insight-in-spain-at-the-ecodesafio-honda-insi/)). Driver's scores can then be checked on a special website that can be viewed by overall daily results, by individuals or by Japanese provinces. This little game broadens the reach of the Insight's mileage indicator on the dashboard that is meant to teach drivers how to get the maximum number of miles from a single gallon. Oh, and the campaign was launched with a cool video featuring Snoopy (http://www.honda.co.jp/HDTV/greenmachine/cm-eco-grand-prix/).

[Source: Honda via Le Blog Auto (http://www.leblogauto.com/2009/07/honda-lance-leco-grand-prix-au-japon.html)]

tokyodream
20-07-09, 13:00
Green Insight !


http://www.kilmarnockstandard.co.uk/lifestyle/motoring-car-news/2009/07/20/green-insight-81430-24193780/ (http://www.kilmarnockstandard.co.uk/lifestyle/motoring-car-news/2009/07/20/green-insight-81430-24193780/)

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I WASN'T really into tamagotchis - those digital pets all the rage a decade ago. But Honda suggests you think about the Eco Assist system on its hybrid model as a tamagotchi: the nicer you treat your car, the more it will reward you.
It's only common sense that car sympathy will extend its life and the Japanese company is keen to improve its technological reputation and role in the green scheme of things.
Not only does Honda want the eco-minded to be green, it wants to appeal to the uninitiated masses by producing an affordable hybrid car, hence the all-new Insight.
But it goes further by educating motorists with a healthy, green flashing light above the speedo which rapidly turns to electric blue if you apply a leadened foot to the gas pedal or fail to save energy in other ways, by applying light instead of unnecessary heavy braking, for instance.
Your reward is a cleaner journey as well as a more economical one - and your efforts are acknowledged by a veritable forest of trees springing up in the centre of the dashboard. If you end up with a row of totem poles, you know that's bad, but if they sprout healthy leaves, give yourself a pat on the back.
It sounds involved, but it doesn't have to be, because drivers can opt to flick on the ECON switch to put the Insight into 'super economy mode'. It results in controlling the throttle, limiting power output and a smoother automatic transmission shift pattern.
Honda's aim was to make petrol-electric technology available to more people by developing a more affordable variant.
The result is the Insight, a five-door hatchback with Honda's Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) hybrid system, offering low emission, fuel-efficient motoring at a lower price than any other hybrid on the market.
First impressions at launch in April were good and a fuller appraisal reinforced them. Sweeping lines dip towards a flat, stylish front while the rear has a high, dramatic glass tailgate with horizontal split.
Powered by a 1.3-litre 87bhp petrol engine, linked to a 14bhp electric motor, it felt sprite in town but less impressive on the open road where you have to thrash the automatic gearbox - but at a cost. The 113mph Insight doesn't like pressure but settles down once it's mustered plenty of non-green revs.
The hatch gets to 62mph in a leisurely 12.5 seconds but engine and transmission are quite noisy.
Steering felt precise and the transmission was smooth. There were no jerks when petrol power cut out at lights and the electric motor briefly engaged before petrol power kicked in to pull away.
The Insight boasts 61.4mpg, though 50mpg was much nearer the mark on test. There's good room for five, but six-footers will be cramped in the back.
The ES-T model costs Ł18,890 and features a raft of stability technology, auto headlights, sat-nav, MP3 and Bluetooth connectivity.
- Val Jessop
MENTION 'hybrid' and most people will think Toyota Prius. Other companies have stuck their toe in the hybrid pool but none, so far, has been as successful as Toyota.
Now it faces a real challenge from the second generation Honda Insight which, at first glance, has more than a passing resemblance to a Prius but which Honda says has a personality of its own.
Honda previewed its hybrid/electric technology with the first Insight back in 2000.
Weird looking and totally impractical, it sold about 18,000 worldwide in six years.
Smaller than its Prius rival, the new Insight has been developed from the ground up and its five-door, five-seat hatchback style is a lot more practical. Honda hopes to sell 90,000 a year.
It uses Honda's clever Integrated Motor Assist drivetrain which couples an 87bhp 1.3-litre VTEC petrol engine with a 13bhp electric motor squeezed between the engine and the CVT gearbox.
It delivers 147lb/ft of torque, which is available from as low as 1,000rpm, so the Insight performs well. Add firmish suspension, nicely-weighted steering and a paddleshift gear selector on ES-T models, as on the test car, and you have an interesting, if not riveting petrol-electric car.
Hybrids aim to lessen the carbon footprint on the Planet but they also have to be efficient and the Insight encourages thrifty driving and gives owners a novel way to monitor economy.
There's an Eco Assist display on the dashboard, which features sprouting trees if you're being kind to the planet. Equally, a green speedo means you're a tree-hugger. A blue one means you're not. It seemed that most of the time I was an alien life form out to destroy the earth.
An ECON button makes it easier by remapping the throttle to be less aggressive, cutting back on air con and using a few other tricks.
Some motoring hack I know, mentioning no names, managed to get over 72mpg on a fuel economy route set up by Honda, but I couldn't better 50mpg during the Insight's week-long test. Official figures quote a combined average of 61.4mpg, nevertheless, I was still pleased with my results.
Even without the novelty of the hybrid technology, the Insight is a good family car. It has decent legroom and a compact battery under the rear seats allows more boot space than its Toyota rival.
Inside, the cabin is well laid out and though there's plenty of plastic, it has a quality feel.
The aerodynamics make for a quiet ride - until you open up the throttle and the engine almost screams, thanks to the CVT delaying gear changing.
Overall, though, the Insight is a compelling package that opens up the hybrid market to buyers who couldn't previously afford one.
- Alistair Coull

FAST FACTS:

Honda Insight 1.3 IMA ES-T 5dr
Price: Ł18,890
Mechanical: 87bhp, 1,339cc, 4cyl hybrid engine driving front wheels via automatic gearbox
Max speed: 113mph
0-62mph: 12.5 seconds
Combined mpg: 61.4
Insurance group: 6
CO2 emissions: 105g/km
BIK rating: 15%
Warranty: 3yrs/ 90,000 miles

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Romania are alocate doar 12 masini hibride Honda Insight ! :haha: :o_o: :what:

http://www.stiriauto.ro/articol/6776/Romania-are-alocate-doar-12-masini-hibride-Honda-Insight/


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http://www.stiriauto.ro/files/Image/___Poze/Honda/Honda%20Insight%20-%20Honda.jpgNumarul de masini Honda Insight alocate Romaniei a fost limitat de constructor la 12 unitati in acest an, din cauza cererii ridicate din Japonia, iar primele livrari catre clientii romani vor fi realizate la sfarsitul lunii august, au declarat pentru StiriAuto.ro oficialii companiei

(javascript:void(0))importatoare. Honda Insight, cel mai nou automobil hibrid al constructorului auto japonez Honda, trebuia sa fie lansat in Romania in prima


(javascript:void(0))parte a acestui an.

Cu toate acestea, primele livrari catre clienti vor incepe la sfarsitul lunii august, urmand ca pana la sfarsitul anului sa fie livrate, pe rand, toate cele 12 unitati alocate pietei romanesti.
Importatorul masinilor Honda, Honda Trading Romania, are doua automobile importate, destinate testelor pentru presa.
Honda Trading Romania nu a comunicat oficial pretul masinii, intrucat diferentele de curs valutar dintre euro si yen l-ar putea influenta. Cu toate acestea, pretul orientativ pentru acest model va fi de 20.000-21.000 de euro in Romania, inclusiv TVA, potrivit oficialilor Honda.
Cererea pentru Honda Insight in Romania este mai mare decat numarul de masini alocat, motiv pentru care importatorul solicitase initial peste 40 de masini.
In Romania este disponibila doar versiunea de echipare de varf (Elegance), care are dotari standard precum faruri cu xenon, jante din aliaj usor, senzori de lumina si ploaie, climatizare automata, airbag-uri frontale, laterale si de tip cortina.
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Masina are un sistem de propulsie hibrid, fiind dotata cu un motor pe benzina de 1,3 litri, care dezvolta 88 Cai Putere (CP) si cu un motor electric de 15 CP.

Propulsia hibrida la autovehicule presupune adaugarea la motorul care functioneaza pe baza de benzina sau motorina

(javascript:void(0))a unui motor electric, care are rolul de a ajuta motorul pe benzina la accelerari, pentru a reduce consumul de carburant si, implicit, emisiile de dioxid de carbon. Tehnologia hibrida presupune de asemenea recuperarea si stocarea in baterii a energiei degajate la franare, pentru a o folosi in caz de nevoie. Modelele hibride au un sistem start/stop, care opreste motorul in cazul stationarii la semafor cu piciorul pe frana si il porneste la eliberarea pedalei.


Honda vrea sa comercializeze anual 200.000 de exemplare Insight.

Adrian Mihalache, StiriAuto.ro (http://www.stiriauto.ro/www.stiriauto.ro)

BogdanRR
20-07-09, 15:34
cele 12 unitati alocate pietei romanesti...Cererea pentru Honda Insight in Romania este mai mare decat numarul de masini alocat, motiv pentru care importatorul solicitase initial peste 40 de masini.

Been there, done that.
Aceeasi faza a fost si cu Civic 5D. Cand se inghesuia lumea sa le cumpere, aduceau cu taraita, pe urma s-au trezit si ei intr-un tarziu, dar au ramas cu ele pe stoc.
Epic fail!
Si cred ca buba e undeva in tara soarelui-rasare.

mandrei83
22-07-09, 14:06
Lol, doar 12 masini alocate pt piata din Romania?:D
Ma intreb daca cumparatorii sunt constienti ca a aparut si Prius gen. 3, care e acelasi pret cu gen. 2 (cea care o am eu).. iar un Prius la 25.500EUR e mult mai dotat decat Insight-ul la 21.000EUR..

Fara rautate o zic, dar nu stiu de ce unii au ales sa cumpere Insight, in defavoarea Priusului. Mi-a placut si mie Insight, dar cand am vazut drive test-urile si review-urile de pe net, mi-am luat repede gandul de la masina aia si nu regret nicio clipa investitia in Prius..

Frumoasa Honda Insight, dar totul se cam opreste aici (nu o zic subiectiv, ca si cand doar Priusuri as visa)..

ticker
22-07-09, 14:15
E subiectiv pentru ca nu ai vazut, pipait si testat inca Insight-ul. La rautate as putea spune si eu ca sunt amari sturgurii :D

Ideea e ca ceva nu se misca sau se misca foarte prost pt Honda in Romania. O cota de 12 masine e de rasul curcilor...

mandrei83
22-07-09, 14:46
E subiectiv pentru ca nu ai vazut, pipait si testat inca Insight-ul. La rautate as putea spune si eu ca sunt amari sturgurii :D

Pe data de 31 martie 2009 am vazut-o inaintea tuturor, am pipait-o si m-am urcat la volanul ei, asa cum poti vedea aici (http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=529110&view=findpost&p=6271058). Deci stiu despre ce e vorba si nu m-a impresionat.

Nu sunt acrii strugurii deloc. Prius consuma 5.2% in oras si sunt mult mai incantat de achizitia asta, decat as fi fost cu Insight-ul.. :D

BogdanRR
22-07-09, 15:03
Ticker, avand in vedere ca majoritatea covarsitoare a celor avizati care au testat-o au avut o parere proasta despre ea, nu cred ca sunt toti dusi cu pluta sau pus pe denigrat Honda. Iar daca pana si Clarkson, admirator Honda de cand stiu TG, a facut-o praf, mai ca ceva putred chiar e in Danemarca. Din punctul meu de vedere, daca masina ar fi costat in jurul a 14-17.000, ultimul pret fiind pt varianta Elegance, si-ar fi meritat banii. Daca nu le convine cursul yen-euro, sa puna mana sa le faca in China sau in Turcia, ca oricum, la cum arata si se simte la interior, parca de acolo vine.

mandrei83
22-07-09, 15:22
Ii cam dau dreptate lui BogdanCTR, eu nu cred ca toti care au testat-o sunt nebuni. Mai mult, e acelasi motor ca si pe Civic-ul Hibrid, care nici ala nu are nu stiu ce performante.. Imi aduc aminte ca scotea undeva la 7-8% prin oras, cand ma interesasem si de masina aia..:eek:

A facut misto Jerremy Clarkson la greu de Prius 1 YouTube - Jeremy Clarkson - Chapter 3 - Prius Shootout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsJjZIuF1lg) (sedan-ul ala plictisitor, a pus chiar pe unul Bob sa traga cu mitraliera in ea, am ras de era sa ma prapadesc :D).. iar apoi de Prius 2 YouTube - Top Gear - Toyota Prius Road Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyV3I-RZ3MI) a zis ca:
-e prea silentioasa si copiii care se joaca pe strada s-ar putea sa n-o auda
-daca vrei o masina puternica, un diesel ar fi o alternativa mult mai buna, daca nu-ti pasa de nush ce fruct tazmanian si nu vrei sa salvezi planeta.. LOL
-cotiera are capacul cu amortizoare din bureti. Asa o fi la modelul 2004 (cel caruia i-a facut review-ul), dar la modelul 2006-2008 nu am idee cum e, ca nu m-am uitat la masina mea.

La un Prius chiar platesti ce primesti, desi din pct de vedere al design-ului exterior as alege doar Honda Insight. La interior, imi place Priusul datorita gadget-urilor pe care le are si a MFD-ului cu touchscreen, desi bordul poate li se pare ciudat unora. Aici depinde de gusturi, repet..:)

tokyodream
22-07-09, 15:54
http://www.bnd.com/yourlife/story/849293.html (http://www.bnd.com/yourlife/story/849293.html)

Honda's forsight leads to Insight!

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Posted on Wed, Jul. 22, 2009




BY LARRY PRINTZ
The Virginian-Pilot

The question of the week that greeted me: "So how do you like the new Toyota Prius?"

It would have been a perfectly good question, except I was driving a new Honda Insight.

Doh! How is that mix-up possible?

A little background: The first-generation Honda Insight was introduced in 1999 as a two-seat, three-door hybrid. Two years later, Toyota brought the Prius to the United States. It was dressed as an odd-looking, little four-door sedan with a conventional trunk. But when the Prius was redesigned for 2004, it looked a lot like a Honda Insight -- with five doors. No one seemed to notice. The Insight's sales were anemic, while the Prius' sales took off.

So it's ironic that most observers think the new Insight looks like a Prius. Make no mistake; Honda engineers had the Prius in mind when they designed the latest Insight. Specifically, they were looking at the Prius' starting price at the time: $22,000. The new Insight undercuts it, starting at $19,800 for the LX model. The spiffier EX model starts at $21,300. Want an EX with a navigation system? That will set you back $23,100.

Opting for the EX nets some important safety features not available on the LX, including stability control and traction control. EX buyers also get a navigation system, cruise control, steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters, a center console with armrest and storage, vanity mirrors, a USB audio plug and a Bluetooth link.

On paper, the Insight seems like a good deal compared to the Prius. So how are they different?

For starters, the Insight never runs solely on electricity. The electric motor is there to assist the 1.3-liter, four-cylinder gas engine. Like all hybrids, the Insight shuts down when you come to a stop and restarts when you hit the accelerator. The Honda has a lively feel that belies its pokey acceleration. There's enough moxie to keep pace with traffic -- just don't challenge sports cars at stoplights.

But you wouldn't do that, right?

This car is all about fuel economy. I'll admit that I drove the Insight without trying to eke out every mpg and still got a more than respectable 43.1 mpg. That's enough for any oil sheik to contemplate selling the family Rolls-Royce.

Yes, I occasionally hit the green "econ" button, which dials back engine power in return for lower fuel consumption. But it also dials back the air conditioning. Being particularly sizzling during the test days, my inner hedonist won out, and I rarely used the button. Besides, this car didn't need even less power.

Give Honda points for trying to give the car a bit more mojo for enthusiast drivers. It has steering wheel-mounted paddles that allow the driver to shift the car manually. You'll never mistake it for a true manual, but it adds a bit of spice to a car not known for it. After all, this gas-fueled frugal four-door was created to deliver people, not fun.

The Insight employs some of the Honda Fit's underpinnings, so it has a narrow cabin that's surprisingly spacious. The car's ride gets uncomfortably harsh over the worst bumps. The seats mirror the ride: very firm. There's quite a bit of road and tire noise. My advice is to turn up the audio system and don't let its numerous buttons intimidate you. After all, they're logically laid out.

So is the dashboard, which at first glance, seems a little over the top. But once you get used to it, you'll see that the controls make sense where they are. The instrument cluster is particularly innovative. The top half features a large digital speedometer placed high enough that the driver doesn't have to look down to note the speed. The lower part of the cluster houses the remaining gauges.

The Honda's hatchback design endows it with maximum cargo flexibility, so carrying big items, like bikes, is possible. But the rear window's horizontal cross member blocks a hefty bit of visibility -- a trait the Insight shares with the Prius.

Honda has delivered superb engineering at an affordable price, but the trade-off is an interior that seems a little downscale from what Honda usually delivers. Most buyers won't mind; the price is too good. Unlike some of its other vehicles, Honda has endowed the Insight with some of the DNA that made its reputation in the United States.

2010 Honda Insight:

Pro: Taut-handling gas sipper

Con: Cheap interior trim

Engine: 1.3-liter SOHC four-cylinder

Motor: 10-kilowatt electric motor

Power storage: Nickel metal hydride battery

Wheelbase: 100.4 inches

Length: 172.3 inches

Weight: 2,723 pounds

Cargo space: 15.9-31.5 cubic feet

EPA rating (city/highway): 40/43 mpg Fuel economy: 43.1 mpg

Fuel type: Regular unleaded

Base price: $23,100

As tested: $23,770


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tokyodream
23-07-09, 11:02
Honda Hip To (More) Hybrids !

http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1022327_honda-hip-to-more-hybrids (http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1022327_honda-hip-to-more-hybrids)


Honda (http://www.thecarconnection.com/make/honda) can never be accused of producing gas guzzlers. There's not an engine bigger than a 3.7 liter six cylinder in their stables. Japan's number two automaker had recently considered building a V8 for their luxury (http://www.lotusconnection.com/category/luxury,new) Acura (http://www.luxurycarreport.com/make/acura,new) division to compete with the likes of Lexus (http://www.thecarconnection.com/make/lexus), Infiniti (http://www.thecarconnection.com/make/infiniti), and every other luxury (http://www.benzconnection.com/category/luxury,new) brand. That discussion came to an end under former Honda (http://www.allsmallcars.com/make/honda,new) chief, Takeo Fukui when the economy nosedived.
New boss, Takanobu Ito, plans to carry on Honda's (http://www.thecarconnection.com/make/honda) tradition of focusing on fuel efficiency. "I don't think we need a classic front-engine, rear-drive car. It would be meaningless to emulate what other companies have been doing for more than five decades," said Ito at a news conference last month.
So what will Honda (http://www.allminivans.com/make/honda,new) do instead? "We are considering incorporating new engines, motors, transmissions and chassis into mid- to large-sized hybrid (http://www.allcarselectric.com/category/hybrid,new) vehicles, and I think this is a good opportunity for change," Ito said.
Sounds like the Honda Insight (http://www.hondareports.com/overview/honda_insight_2006), Civic and the upcoming CR-Z and Fit hybrids (http://www.audireports.com/category/hybrid,new) will be the babies of Honda's (http://www.greencarreports.com/make/honda,new) future hybrid (http://www.porschereports.com/category/hybrid,new) fleet. Could this mean the return of the Accord Hybrid (http://www.thecarconnection.com/modelintro/honda_accord-hybrid_2007)? What about a hybrid (http://www.chevroletreports.com/category/hybrid,new) CR-V or Element? Maybe even an eight-passenger Pilot? Anything is possible for the oft named Greenest Automaker, and remember gentlemen, size does matter.
Which Honda (http://www.familycarguide.com/make/honda,new) model would you most like to have hybridized? Leave a comment below.
Source: Automotive News (http://www.autonews.com/article/20090720/ANA03/307209966)

BogdanRR
23-07-09, 13:58
http://www.automarket.ro/stiri/honda-lucreaza-la-imbunatatirea-hibridului-insight-23010.html

Honda lucreaza la imbunatatirea hibridului Insight

Speriati de avantul pe care l-a luat Prius in vanzari, inginerii Honda analizeaza solutii de coborare a consumului si de imbunatatire a comportamentului dinamic.





La doar cateva luni de la lansarea de piata a modelului hibrid Insight, inginerii Honda analizeaza deja metodele prin care modelul nipon poate fi imbunatatit la capitolele consum si tinuta de drum.
Conform britanicilor de la Autocar, Honda a pus la treaba deja o echipa de tehnicieni al caror scop este dezvoltarea unei solutii care sa scada consumul lui Insight pana la un nivel mai coborat decat cel al marelui rival Toyota Prius. Conform cifrelor oferite de producatori, Insight consuma 4.5 litri/100 km, in timp ce Prius coboara pana la 4.0 litri, in conditiile in care modelul Toyota dispune de un motor clasic de 100 CP si cilindree 1.8 litri, iar Insight vine cu un motor de doar 1.4 litri care dezvolta 88 de cai putere.
Un alt element pe marginea caruia vor starui inginerii Honda in urmatoarea perioada va fi sasiul si comportamentul masinii la rulare la viteze reduse.
Desi Insight a avut un start lansat la vanzarile din Japonia, fiind primul hibrid din istorie care reuseste sa se claseze pe prima pozitie in topul vanzarilor intr-o tara a lumii (10.481 de unitati in aprilie), lansarea noului Prius a declasat modelului Honda, care a ajuns pe pozitia a treia, cu vanzari care se ridica la doar 8000 de unitati in lune iunie.
via | Autocar (http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/Honda-Insight/241724/)




Doare rau concurenta, fir-ar mama ei de Toyota.
Honda, un mic sfat: baga-i un pret mai mic, in numele lui D-zeu! Lumea nu vrea un hibrid care consuma cu 0.1 l mai putin, ci vrea un hibrid ieftin. Ideea e sa fie hibrid, sa se dea mare ca salveaza planeta.:nono:

tokyodream
27-07-09, 12:56
Fabrica de zvonuri: Honda Insight va primi un facelift inainte de vreme?

http://www.auto.ro/news/Fabrica-de-zvonuri-Honda-Insight-va-primi-un-facelift-inainte-de-vreme (http://www.auto.ro/news/Fabrica-de-zvonuri-Honda-Insight-va-primi-un-facelift-inainte-de-vreme)

Se aude ca Honda (http://www.auto.ro/hoda) pregateste deja un facelift pentru Insight, dupa ce Toyota (http://www.auto.ro/toyota) Prius s-a dovedit a fi mai bun atat in ceea ce priveste consumul, cat si in privinta confortului.

Diferenta de consum este foarte mica - 4,3 litri vs 4,4 litri -, dar Prius ofera un spatiu interior demn de orice compacta mai “rasarita”, in timp ce Insight ofera loc mai degraba la nivelul clasei mici.
Mai mult, hibridul Honda a fost criticat si datorita suspensiilor mult prea tari, exact in America, unde niponii vor sa vanda cele mai multe exemplare. Si, nu in ultimul rand, nici performantele nu sunt stralucitoare - spun tot yankeii.

Drept urmare, Honda se straduieste sa reduca consumul, suspensiile vor fi revizuite si ele, respectiv caroseria va fi mai bine izolata fonic, ceea ce va creste simtitor confortul pe distante lungi.

Nu se stie cand va fi lansata noua versiune, dar se zvoneste ca producatorul japonez a luat foarte in serios criticile cumparatorilor, deci Insight facelift ar putea aparea in mai putin de un an.

BogdanRR
27-07-09, 14:03
Nici vorba de facelift in adevaratul sens al cuvantului, ci sunt modificari propuse pentru urmatorul "model year". Asta se intampla la toate modelele Honda. Chiar si la Civic 5D si CR-V au existat cateva schimbari vizibile inainte de facelift. In alta ordine de idei, faptul ca revizuiesti masina asa de repede nu denota prea multa incredere in produsul tau.

BogdanRR
29-07-09, 09:55
Hybrid for everyone, in curand la aproape 21.500 E in Romania.
For everyone?!?!?
:what:
Stay tuned.;)

tokyodream
29-07-09, 10:16
eu stiam 19.000 - 21.000 E :)

octi_b
29-07-09, 10:26
La cate bucati vor aduce in Romania, le vor vinde pe toate si cu 30000 de euro...

BogdanRR
29-07-09, 10:36
La cate bucati vor aduce in Romania, le vor vinde pe toate si cu 30000 de euro...

Te bagi la un pariu?:D

vtin
29-07-09, 10:55
Oarecum offtopic: Insight se plimba si pe la Balea Lac.

BogdanRR
29-07-09, 11:19
Deloc offtopic, pozele-s binevenite.:)